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Yanks and Wang Can't Find Common Ground

Chien-Ming Wang$600,000 separates Chien-Ming Wang's asking price and the Yankee offer. $600,000, or to put it in perspective, 5.45% of what the Yanks are paying Carl Pavano this season. Wang asked for $4.6M, the Yanks offered $4.0M. So close, but yet so far.

Brian Cashman said today that the Yanks and Wang will probably go to an arbitration hearing because they cannot bridge the gap. If it seems ludicrous that the Yanks can't work this out, that's because it is. This can't possibly be about the money, $600,000 is such a small sum in the grand scheme of things. So if it isn't about the money, then what's going on?

One school of thought seems to be that the Yanks are peeved about Wang's horrible performance in games 1 and 4 of the ALDS last season. I know plenty of fans were more than a little disappointed in our ace's poor showing. Many fans took it as a sign that Wang isn't truly an ace. Maybe the Yanks share that notion.

If you look at the roster, the minor-league system and player ceilings, where does Wang fit in? In a perfect world, he'd be the Yanks number three or four starter two or three years down the road, with Hughes and Joba firmly entrenched in the top two slots and Wang left to duke it out with Kennedy for the 3/4 slots. If this is the reasoning behind the standoff, it still doesn't make any sense at all. Fine, the Yanks want to wait and see with Wang. He's under Yankee control through 2011, by that time he might not warrant big money. In fact, by that time he very well may have been surpassed and the Yankee rotation may be CC Sabathia, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Ian Kennedy and Andrew Brackman or Jeff Marquez. The point is, a lot can happen in the next three seasons. But that's not what we're talking about here. The issue isn't whether or not to sign Wang to an extension, the issue is whether or not to go through what might become a messy arbitration hearing over $600,000.

This situation is about this year, and keeping Wang happy. He's probably not getting an extension, so you've already got that disappointment to deal with. The least you can do is bend and avoid arbitration. There's no need to add insult to injury, especially when you look at exactly how important Wang is to this team in 2008. The Yanks are going to have to fashion at the very least 400 innings out of Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, if Mike Mussina is ineffective they're going to need more out of them. If Wang or Pettitte goes down with an injury for an extended period of time, we're either going to see the Big Three stretched beyond their innings limits or the likes of Kei Igawa and Sean Henn getting spot starts. We all know how that would end.

The Yanks are depending on Wang to give them 200+ innings and stabilize the front of the rotation, he's very important to the short-term goals of this team. They need him. If you're of the "what have you done for me lately," school of thought, all you need to do is look at what Wang did last year. He took the ball every fifth day for a couple of months with a painful finger injury, and he gutted his way through games without his best stuff. He deserves a little respect, and honestly, $600,000 amounts to just that. A little respect.

The Yanks need to come to their senses here. There's nothing to be gained from this hard-line approach, and plenty to lose.



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Lets not forget that The Wanger's got the most wins in the majors the last 2 years - 38.

Wang deserves better. He is our ace, when he gets the ball every 5th, we usually come out on top or at least have a fightin' chance.


Get this done with and bring in some bullpen help for godsake.

3 crappy relievers (bruney, Hawkins, Farnsworth) does not equal 1 good one.

Let's not forget that wins are perhaps the most meaningless statistic to measure pitchers by, and if I found out that my team was using them as a yardstick to determine salary offers, I'd probably cry myself to sleep.

I find it hard to believe that the Yankees have not offered $4.3M or $4.4M, and can only assume that Wang rejected it (kind of like how he rejected the Yankees' offer for 2007, only be renewed at less). If he did, then the Yankees have nothing to lose by going to arbitration - $4.6M is their worst case there.

I feel like Wang doesn't understand the economics of baseball.

It's not really the wins that have so much value, you're right, they get way too much value as a stat in most cases. The big issue is the innings. The Yanks really need Wang to give them over 200 innings this year. Monetarily, going to a hearing isn't much of a risk for them, but is it worth the ill will it creates for 300-400K?

I don't understand why the Yanks won't just pay Wang the 4.6 he's asking, esp. since it was rumored the Yankees were looking at sucky innings eater Kyle Lohse, who is asking somewhere around 7 mil. a year and a four year contract.

Wang eats as many innings as Lohse and batters aren't batting .280 against him like they are against Lohse. The only thing about Wang is that he's much better pitching at home than he is away... could this be what makes the Yankees hesitate?

It's hard to say what the next three to four years will bring in a pitcher. Wang has pitched well over the last two years and you'd think he's a proven ace at this point. Has his name come up in any trade talks or rumors?

Lohse would get lit up in the A.L. East. Even if he stayed healthy, I don't think the Yanks could trot him out there for 30 starts. He doesn't want to come to the A.L. either.

I heard two rumors involving Wang this offseason, one was that the Twins asked for Wang and Kennedy as a last offer to the Yanks for Johan. The Yanks declined. The other was something completely fabricated about Wang going to the Dodgers.

I seriously doubt the Yanks will deal him, he's a huge part of their plans over the next couple of years. Once he reaches free agency, who knows.

please dont ever say yankees and C.C. Sabathia in the same scentence !!!!!!! SCRUB ... by the way go G MEN BABY!!!! EAGLES WILL NEVER EVER WIN A TITLE

^^^ For the record, that was a different Tom.

I'm the one who started commenting late last season.

But anyway, yes it does seem very silly. If it truly is about his two bad starts in the ALDS this year, it's way overblown. What about his two strong playoff starts in 2005-2006?

I think Cashman is smart enough not to judge a pitcher based on two starts

Yeah, I don't really think it's about those two starts, that was just some of what I was reading/hearing.

Although, while Cashman isn't reactive like that, it does sound like something a younger George Steinbrenner may have done...

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