by Brian on February 18, 2008 at 8:15AM
Stop. This isn't me looking at the Sixers through rose-colored glasses. I've been where you are. In fact, I made a very public display of my pro-tanking feelings last season. I thought all hope was lost when Iverson was traded. I wound up feeling very foolish when the Sixers turned things around and actually had a legitimate shot at the playoffs with a couple of weeks left in the season.

What's the best-case scenario if they had tanked last year? I guess the absolute best would've been the number one pick and Greg Oden dressed in a snazzy suit on the bench for the entire season. Second best would've been watching Kevin Durant take 18 shots/night to get 19 points and contributing next to nothing in every other area of the game. If they had gotten the number 3 pick, Al Horford would be a Sixer. That I could live with. After that, is there really a guy you'd rather see as Sixer than Thad Young? Here are the guys who were picked between #4 and #12:
  • Mike Conley - Might turn into a good point who can't shoot.
  • Jeff Green - Versatile player who will probably never be more than a team's #3 option on offense
  • Yi Jianlian - 7-footer who's shooting 43% from the floor and averaging only 5.7 boards in 27 minutes.
  • Corey Brewer - Good perimeter defender, horrible offensive player (5.4 ppg in 22 minutes, shooting 35% from the floor)
  • Brandan Wright - Getting no playing time in Golden State. Seems like a good athlete with a lot of learning to do.
  • Joakim Noah - Hustle player with extremely limited offensive game.
  • Spencer Hawes - Seeing no playing time on a bad team in Sacramento. Production on par with Jason Smith.
  • Acie Law - Combo guard doing very little for Atlanta in about the same minutes as Thad has seen for the Sixers so far.
I'm not saying that the guys on this list won't turn into stars, although I have serious doubts about most of them. My point is that even if the Sixers had tanked last year, and hadn't built up the positive momentum they brought into this season, they'd still probably be in worse shape than they are right now.

What are we hoping for if they tank this season? Is O.J. Mayo going to make the difference in Philly? Or to put last season in some kind of perspective, would the Sixers be better off if they'd intentionally lost last season, Iguodala and Lou Williams hadn't been given the opportunity to grow and we had Yi instead of Thad right now? I don't think so.

The Sixers have a nucleus here right now, a core of solid players who need another piece or two to become legitimate contenders in the East. Think about it, Boston is old, Detroit is old, the Cavs are not that good. Orlando has youth and talent, so does Toronto, but beyond those two teams is there anyone who you can see being a dominant team in this conference? The East will be wide open a year or two down the road, and the Sixers are learning how to win tough games right now, as a young group. Let them take the steps. Last year, they finished strong against tough odds. This year, maybe they make the playoffs. Who knows where they could go next year with the right additions to the team.

There are differing philosophies on how you build a winning team. Some think you have to do it through the draft, some think you need to get the right guys through free agency or trades. Most think it's a combination of the three. I think there's one thing that's commonly left out of the equation. You have to build a winning atmosphere. You have to give your team a taste of what winning feels like. The Sixers are doing that. They're slowly, but surely, making Philadelphia a place where free agents will want to play. A playoff berth may be the difference between luring a Josh Smith and having to settle for an over-priced aging PF like Antawn Jamison.

It's never too late to get on the playoff bandwagon, so once again, I implore all tanking advocates to stop, take a look at where this team is, and start rooting for wins every night. All of the Sixers problems aren't going to be solved in the upcoming draft. They're in a position to make a major splash in the trade and/or free agent market, so this season becomes about making the guys on the team better and making Philadelphia a place where players in the league want to play. Winning now is the solution.




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[February 18, 2008 10:26 AM]  |  link  |  reply
The Greek said

This is my post on another blog on @/14/08

I have to admit that I was one of the many fans who wished for us to lose as many games as possible after the Iverson trade in order for us to get a shot at Durant or Oden in the draft. And when the worst thing happened, the sixers winning enough games to earn a late lottery pick while also missing out of the playoffs I felt as if the curse of Harold Katz was still alive. But then the miracle of Thad Young happened. By the way, I wanted Al Thorton at the 12 spot. Drafting Thad Young was the best thing to happen to this franchise since we won game 1 against the lakers in the finals. If the draft was redone today and we had the 3rd pick, you bet your azz I would be rooting for us to pick Thad even over Horford. Big Al will be a solid pro but our boy Thad has the makings of a superstar, or as I told my buddy today a FUTURE DREAM TEAMER. Gotta love the cool aid baby!

Posted by The Greek | February 14, 2008 11:45 PM

[February 18, 2008 12:39 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Brian replied to The Greek

Thad's got a chance, man. I want to see more of his jumper. If his mid-range jumper is solid and he can extend it to three we've got one hell of a one-two punch on the wings with him and Iguodala.

I'm excited for them to get back on the court tomorrow night.

[February 18, 2008 11:22 AM]  |  link  |  reply
PhillyFriar said

From a realistic perspective, tanking will provide the Sixers with nothing at this point, because Minnesota, Miami, New York and others won't ever pass the Sixers in the standings -- and in my opinion, Beasley and Rose are the only really special players in this draft. Plus, the Celtics showed you last year that tanking only gets you the most ping pong balls.

Regarding Josh Smith... is there any way this could actually happen? I agree that he'd be the perfect fit for this team, but as a restricted free agent it will be near impossible to pull this off.

[February 18, 2008 12:22 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Brian replied to PhillyFriar

Actually, I think the odds of the Hawks keeping Josh Smith just lessened with the trade for Mike Bibby, especially if this season doesn't end well for the Hawks. Signing Smith longterm is going to put them over the cap, and possibly close to the luxury tax threshold. Their ownership may not be willing to do that if their gamble for Bibby doesn't pay off.

[February 18, 2008 12:55 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Aarick said

Hopefully if we make the playoffs and leave the Hawks out. Then Josh Smith will think he is the missing piece to get this team over the hump. We have a legitimate shot at the postseason with J-Kidd on the move and it really becoming a 2-team race between us and Atlanta. I'd be surprised if N.J doesn't fall out of the playoff race.

This is going out on a limb, but I'm pushing to get to the 6th spot and out of Boston and Detroit's line of fire in the first round. With Washington losing 8 of their last 10 and dealing with injuries we should try to take advantage. At least before agent zero returns.

[February 18, 2008 5:50 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Joe replied to Aarick

I agree with a lot of what you say. I would argue that Washington will be a worse team upon Arenas' return, at least short-term and probably long-term. Arenas is a poison who cannot shoot(35% from beyond the arc, 41% from field), dribble, pass and is a laughing stock on defense, not to mention his antics. This is Caron Butler's team now.

He can draw fouls and sink free throws with the best of them, but I definitely think people see his 40 point games where he took 35 shots and overrate him. I consider him a crazy Allen Iverson.

Getting back to the Sixers though. I am with you Brian. I absolutely love this team. I am planning on going to the Knicks game and hopefully another 3-4 games this season. I want a Sixers' jersey for the first time since Iverson's rookie year honestly and it is strictly because of this new rook. I never got AI jersey, but I may get the TY jersey.

Josh Smith - I am not holding my breath. I think Miller, Iggy, Thad, Josh, Sammy would be quite a good defensive team... but none of them can shoot the basketball consistently outside of 15 feet.

[February 18, 2008 10:59 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Tray said

Yeah, it may be too late to tank, but tanking would have been a good idea last year. Yeah, we got Thad Young. But that was just luck. The chance of getting someone that good at that slot in the draft is really low. Moreover, Conley's going to be a good point and he can already shoot a little. I think he'll be a decent shooter. Oden happens to be injured, but the guy's going to be a very good player. Durant may be a franchise talent, maybe not - but what you're forgetting in all this is that, if we did have a top two pick and hadn't liked what was available, we could've traded it for some star talent. Boston got Ray Allen for the #5. So I think you're always better off drafting high, and I hope we end up with a top ten pick. I have so little interest in watching this faceless team get swept in the first round just so we can build a winning atmosphere. And I really doubt that Josh Smith - who, let's be clear, it would be a mistake to sign - would care whether we make the playoffs or not. Besides, the only teams with the cap room to sign a Brand or Smith are us and Memphis, maybe Sacramento with the deal they just made, so it's not like the alternatives wouldn't be tankerstoo.

[February 18, 2008 11:59 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Brian replied to Tray

Memphis is a joke, and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future, Sacramento may be headed in the right direction, although they really didn't get any pieces back in the Bibby trade, just some cap space which I don't think they'll be able to use this Summer. Regardless, I disagree that it doesn't make Philly more attractive if they actually make the playoffs. Guys like Brand and Smith are going to want to go somewhere where they at least have a shot at the playoffs. When you look at Philly right now, you see a team moving in the right direction, if they were intentionally tanking I don't think you'd see that at all.

Obviously, when it comes to draft day it's better to have a higher draft pick, but how you get to draft day matters too. The Bucks are a good example, they completely pulled the plug and tanked last season in hopes of getting a high pick and then coming back this season and turning everything around with their new pick and a decent core of players. Unfortunately, that core of players turned into a core of losers after playing like that for a full season and now they're probably going to have to blow the whole thing up and start from scratch, if they can get someone to take Redd off their hands.

I don't think the Sixers are at the point where they need to get a savior through the draft, if there's even a savior available. They need to develop this core and use the cap space to sign and/or trade for another big piece. Honestly, I'm not even sure how they would go about tanking. Take minutes away from Iguodala? Play Ollie 20 minutes/game? Put Dalembert on IR for a phantom injury? How do you tank without hindering the development of the young guys? Memphis already found out, to a degree, how hard it is to get players to come play for you when you don't even give the impression that you're trying to win. We don't want that to become the case in Philly as well.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on Josh Smith. I see the Sixers holding teams under 90/game with a starting lineup of Dalembert, Smith, Thad, Iguodala and Miller. And that defense would key the running offense.

[March 11, 2008 10:48 PM]  |  link  |  reply
jkay replied to Brian

guys. Josh Smith are u kidding me? They would kill the entirely nba in athleticism. Jump shot? heck they dont need that but it will come with time. Instantly you have a starting five of the youngest, quickest, most athletic players at their positions (less andre miller though) iguodala returns to the two to create mismatches, smith developing the low post game with young flying on the wings. the possibilities would be endless. add a pure 3 point shooter like matt carrol or sumthin and you have a future Eastern Finals Contender. I guarantee you that. I'm praying meen I'm praying. Ed Stefanski click your heels together and make something happen.