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Motivating Marreese

Thumbnail image for sp8s020909.jpgTime to check in on a familiar theme of this season, Marreese Speights' production. We're not talking about offensive production. He's the most-talented scoring big on the roster not currently undergoing shoulder rehab, we're talking about defensive production and rebounding.




When last we broached this subject, Tony DiLeo was yielding playing minutes as a weapon. Speights began the year hustling for boards, got lazy, got benched, and then his production bounced back. Let's take a look at the bigger picture now.

Let's split the season up according to milestones. Here are his stats:

Under Mo Cheeks
  • GAMES: 21
  • RECORD: 9-12
  • MIN/G: 13
  • REB/36 MIN: 10.1
  • BLK/36 MIN: 1.4
  • PF/36 MIN: 5.6
  • FGA/36 MIN: 15.1
Start Of DiLeo Era (up until benching @ Dallas)
  • GAMES: 8
  • RECORD: 4-4
  • MIN/G: 19
  • REB/36 MIN: 6.2
  • BLK/36 MIN: 1.1
  • PF/36 MIN: 4.5
  • FGA/36 MIN: 15.3
After Dallas Benching
  • GAMES: 8
  • RECORD: 7-1
  • MIN/G: 21
  • REB/36 MIN: 10.5
  • BLK/36 MIN: 2.8
  • PF/36 MIN: 4.4
  • FGA/36 MIN: 15.1
Backslide (Lead up to 3 MIN against Hornets)
  • GAMES: 3
  • RECORD: 1-2
  • MIN/G: 11
  • REB/36 MIN: 1.1
  • BLK/36 MIN: 1.1
  • PF/36 MIN: 4.5
  • FGA/36 MIN: 7.8
Since Hornets' Game
  • GAMES: 10
  • RECORD: 6-4
  • MIN/G: 15
  • REB/36 MIN: 9.7
  • BLK/36 MIN: 1.7
  • PF/36 MIN: 6.5
  • FGA/36 MIN: 14.7
It looks like Speights is starting to get the message. I included the FGA numbers because I wanted to see if there was a correlation to his shots and his production elsewhere. There doesn't seem to be.

The thing we have to remember about Marreese is that he's a 21 year-old rookie. There are going to be ups and downs throughout the season, and really throughout his first several seasons in the league. The important thing to note is the messages DiLeo (and his teammates) send to him, and how he responds to those messages. With a guy like him, who offense comes so easily to, it takes constant pressure to perform in the other areas of the game to avoid complacency.

The last thing I want to do, however, is make excuses for the kid. His defensive positioning needs serioius work, he's fouling way too much and there are a couple of numbers that he absolutely must improve upon.

Check this out:

  • With Sammy on the floor, the Sixers grab 73% of available defensive rebounds.
  • With Speights on the floor, the Sixers grab 64.8% of available defensive rebounds
  • With Sammy on the floor, the Sixers allow 103.1 points per 100 possessions
  • With Speights on the floor, the Sixers allow 111.6 points per 100 possessions (this number has come down from 114 since the last post, but it's still way too high)
Again, you can't even begin to consider Speights supplanting Sammy in the starting lineup until those gaps are narrowed a great deal. He's making strides, but he's still got a ton of work to do.

Since motivation isn't only about negative reinforcement, let's take a look at some of the spectacular Speights stats to finish this up.

  • 20.8 PER leads the team
  • 4.0 Win Shares is fourth
  • .572 TS% is second to only Donyell
  • Speights has attempted 21 more free throws than our starting shooting guard, in 365 fewer minutes, and is shooting 9% higher from the line than him as well.
  • The Sixers are 13-3 when Speights plays more than 20 minutes. 14-23 when he plays less than 20.

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Two things

1. Remember the quote I bolded in the stefanski thread - he's going to be up and down

2. Since you broke down the 'good and bad' performances - do you have any way to break down the on / off numbers in his good and bad games? I wonder if they vary.


Nice post (as always)...

Really good write-up.

I remember when you were fretting before the draft last year that the Sixers may take Anthony Randolph, who you wanted absolutely no part of. Wonder why tomorrow's game is a matinee? Must be a South Beach thing.

Randolph has been much better than I thought he'd be, although he isn't getting many minutes out there. I'm happy with the way the draft turned out :)

Here are some rooks.

All I have to say is that Kevin McHale knows only 1 NBA position, but he knows it damn well.

13.1 boards/36, that's just sick. His numbers would be incredible if he didn't start the season in a horrific shooting slump.

As normal, Great Blog again!

This really stands out to me:

"Speights has attempted 21 more free throws than our starting shooting guard, in 365 fewer minutes, and is shooting 9% higher from the line than him as well." I assume this is primarily Wille?

I would assume so - since willie tends not to get to the free throw line in geneeral throughout his career

Yeah, I was talking about Willie. Lou actually gets to the stripe, that's the only thing he's still doing well.

We really need to get him on the floor more. He's the reason they were trying to unload Sammy (if you believe Chad Ford's chat yesterday).

Except that (and I agree with the way the sixers are handling this) he has to earn it and learn from his mistakes - his offense is great and no one denies that - but he's a big defensive liability right now (and hence why his 'PER" is so high since it kind of ignores the defensive flaws in his game) - and you can't reward his poor defensive play with more minutes - he'll get more minutes when he learns to play defense.

Keep in mind (just generally) the reason a guy with such offensive talent dropped to where he dropped in the draft were concerns about his motivation and work ethic - so the sixers have to keep him motivated and teach him the work ethic to be a better defensive player.


after the abortion of the deadline reporting that is finally over, i won't believe a word out of chad fraud's mouth ever again

Another way to look at the last stat in the post is this.

Speights only plays 20+ minutes when he's working his ass off on the boards and on the defensive end. So the Sixers are 13-3 in games when he's properly motivated. :)

The sixers should tell Speights that his playing time will be intimately connected not to his total rebounds by the rebounding percentage when he's on the floor :)

What about tomorrow nights game? Can we pull it out in Miami? If sweet lou starts at the point?

Ugh. I don't like our odds if Lou is starting at the point. To be honest, I'd start Ivey.

Lou has been anything but sweet recently. Please start Ivey.

If you don't start miller the sixers probably lose - Ivey or Williams - Ivey isn't a starter.

Do we know miller is out?

He's listed as questionable, I still think he plays.

I think he'll try and play if he's able just to maintain that streak (streaks like this are selfish streaks, i hate em) - doesn't mean he'll be able to play though - suppose we'll see :)


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