Rich checks in this morning from his winter break with a closer look at the Sixers team defense. How are has Doug Collins turned this squad into a top-ten defense? Who is responsible for the drastic improvement, and what can they do on that end of the floor in upcoming games against the Bulls (tonight) and the Celtics (tomorrow)?
As you may have noticed, your Philadelphia 76ers have started to play some very good basketball, eight out of eleven to be specific. As Brian
pointed out in a post yesterday, they've done it in different ways. Win some with offense, win others with defense, but make sure that you find one end of the floor to get it done. In the earlier X's and O's posts, we focused strictly on the Sixers' offense. As far as my rudimentary understanding of the numbers goes, the Sixers have been pretty much hit or miss offensively during this stretch. They really have had some excellent games (Charlotte and Cleveland come to mind) scoring the ball and others (Atlanta and the Lakers are examples) were bad. That inconsistency is to be expected when you have the Sixers' offensive personnel. Jodie Meeks and Spencer Hawes go hot and cold. Andre Iguodala isn't a consistent scorer. Jrue Holiday is a really talented young point guard trying to find his way. Lou Williams and Thad Young have great nights, and other times they kill the team. In my opinion, Elton Brand is the only guy whose offense I feel pretty confident of heading into most games. Simply put, there will be good and bad nights going forward. The positive, as
Marc Stein alluded to in his power rankings, is that all of these guys are capable of having big efforts. The element of surprise has been a positive as other teams don't know who will carry the Sixers. At least that's what I'll go with right now while they're playing well.
For this post though, let's venture over to the other side of the ball. When the Sixers hired Doug Collins back in May, his reputation for improving a team's defense in the first season provided hope. Many of us didn't doubt that Collins had a good defensive mind. The major thing that we doubted was whether good defensive basketball was attainable with the 76ers personnel. Without getting too crazy in detail, the team had three relatively plus defensive players last season: Holiday, Iguodala, and Sam Dalembert. Brand also has good instincts on that end, but his lack of explosiveness and terrible defensive rebounding really limited him. After the team traded their anchor on that end (Dalembert) for a bad defensive player in Spencer Hawes, I became really skeptical of how Collins could work his magic on the team D. With the drafting of Evan Turner, many of us dreamed of the defensive possibilities of a "JTI" backcourt. Even though Turner has shown a willingness to defend and rebound the ball, his passive offense has held back his playing time, and we haven't seen the full effects of what those three can do.
Here's the crazy thing: Doug has the Sixers playing good defense. After a rough start to the season, Collins has this team in the top ten in defensive efficiency, a far cry from last year. During the recent winning streak, the team has played elite defense. Again, this has been hit or miss and in a small sample size, but at times they have played downright stifling D (The New Orleans game is still mind-blowing). From just watching the team, it looks pretty simple. Collins has a plan every night on what to do, and the team has been relatively executing it. The team is just well-prepared, and Collins makes adjustments during half time when the other team executes well in the first half. The team's rotations are crisper and less necessary. Sorry for writing what seems to be a love letter to Doug Collins, but I think you get my point: The guy has done a great job with this team's defense so far, and it has been really refreshing. Let's hope he can keep it up.
Looking at the Sixers defensive numbers, they are fairly simple in their approach. When you take into account the stat effective field goal percentage, or eFG, they are a top four defensive team. If you aren't familiar with the stat, it calculates field goal percentage and puts extra weight to threes, because threes happen to be worth more points. This makes sense too, because the Sixers three point defense has been great this year. Long story short, their opponents don't take a lot of threes, and they don't make a high percentage of the ones they do take. Collins has used his team's strength, namely his two great perimeter defenders, Iguodala and Jrue.
Allow me to go on a quick tangent here: I don't watch enough NBA basketball or trust the defensive stats available to definitively say he's the best, but Iguodala HAS to be at the very top when we rank the league's wing defenders. It might be the biggest problem with the national perception of his game. When I read that he's overrated, the same people often forget to talk for even one second about his defense, or mention that he's a 'good' defender in passing. It is just flat out lunacy, because the guy is great on that end of the floor (Ask Kobe). Say what you want about his offense, but don't undervalue his defense. If these people would watch a Sixers game, any Sixers game, just once, they'd probably see one of the games detailed
here. Jrue is young and learning on that end of the floor, but he's capable of brilliance there. His main problem is his aggressiveness and tendency to pick up silly fouls reaching (Or as the great Bill Raftery calls them, "Nickle Dimers"). Anyway you look at it, these two play a ton of minutes, and they do a great job of pressuring the ball. This has really helped take away the three point line, and it helped them stay competitive even when they were losing early.
Now when you look at true shooting percentage, which also is eFG plus free throws, the team drops off a bit. This also makes sense because of the thin front line. Even with Hawes playing better recently, the Sixers send their opponents to the line a lot. It's alright, that's a trade off I'll take when you take into account their three point defense. Running out and challenging shooters leaves open driving lanes too. Heck, they even rebound the ball pretty well defensively, with help from their guards. Jrue (PG) is a good rebounder from his position, even though I like it better when he gets the outlet passes. Turner is the second best shooting guard rebounder in the league per 48 minutes already, and he has great instincts. Iguodala's numbers there aren't great for his position, but he also has to guard the best guy. We all know he can clean the glass too. I made fun of the "rebound by committee" approach suggested by many in the offseason, but so far I have been wrong.
I wanted to use some video to show what the team is doing on that end, but I didn't realize that League Pass Broadband doesn't work for local markets. Now that I am home on break from school, the archive of the games are blacked out, which I find strange and can't do anything about.
Instead of video, let's take a look at the next two games against upper echelon Eastern Conference teams in Chicago and Boston. Both teams have taken big hits in the injury department with Joakim Noah and Rajon Rondo (whose minutes are so poorly handled IMO) both out with injuries. How can we take advantage of these injuries and defend these teams quickly.
In the Chicago game, we might matchup with them alright because their three big weapons on offense will be guarded by our best three defenders. For them, the ball is always in the hands of Derrick Rose. Rose is a dynamic scorer who also makes decisions for the Bulls. Nobody in the league can really stay in front of him, so Jrue has got to try and make him work for his points. Rose has taken a lot of shots to put up his impressive point totals, so it's doable. Rose to me isn't the same kind of threat Rondo is when you back off him because he's not a great playmaker, though he does get over 8 assists a game. Honestly, Jrue just has to be smart, and don't bail him out with reaching. Rose doesn't draw as many fouls as he probably should because he's so talented and tries to make the spectacular shot. Just keep him in front and hope he's not knocking down floaters. He's shooting 40 percent from three now, which makes him ridiculously scary, but we'll live with that if he's making them.
As for the rest of the guys, Carlos Boozer is playing well since he came back. EB and him are very similar offensive players in that they work outside-in, so EB should try to push him a little out of his comfort zone to where he doesn't feel great about shooting those rainbow jumpers. It's really a mismatch on both ends for the offensive guy there. Tell Iguodala that he's got Luol Deng, nothing more than that. Keith Bogans stinks and can't shoot threes, and Jodie should be helping Jrue like crazy with Rose. When Ronnie Brewer is in, ditto. Korver presents some problems, and Jrue is going to have to be great on Rose there. The Sixers really caught a huge break with Noah out, because he would have given Hawes fits and the Bulls extra possessions. If Jrue does a relatively good job on Rose, it's possible to defend this team.
The defense was bad in the heartbreaking loss to Boston a week and a half ago. Now they don't have Rondo, and Nate Robinson will have to play heavy minutes. Jrue's role completely changes in this game because he can pressure the hell out of Nate, and in the half-court he becomes a helper. Meeks has to run around with Allen and Iggy has Pierce. Nothing changes up front either. Without Rondo, Jrue needs to try and make Nate a scorer. If Nate is taking a lot of shots and not getting the other Celtics involved, we have a much better chance to win there. Not too confident about that one though, to be honest.
This stretch will show us if the Sixers are for real. If they can defend like they have recently, I can promise they'll be competitive.
Great job, Rich. The overall defense has been pretty amazing, but I think the defensive rebounding surprises me more than anything. They've obviously had games with lapses, but overall, they've been decent which is head and shoulders above what I thought it would be.
Story on Evan Turner and the extra work he's doing to try to become more effective playing off the ball:
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/126/2010/december/21/turner-hoping-extra-work-pays-off-1.html
Great Post. I enjoy when I see a long post that, when I read it, it seems really short! (I don´t know if I made mmy point, it was a compliment)
Anyway, I´d like to add that when Korver is on the floor, he would be a really good match up with ET. He should be able to defend him by dening him the ball, and could also take advantage of him going to the rym (also because there will be no Noah waiting to help)
My opinion is that the kid needs some confidence, and drawing some fouls and hitting lay ups is the best way to do it, IMO.
Rich and Brian, Could you give your opinion on how Sam would of worked in a solid team defensive philosophy? We always talk about his offensive problems [spacing, working off of Elton, etc.] but was he a smart defensive player, in your opinion, and how good could he of been for Collins?
Personally, I think Collins would've used him like Riley used Alonzo Mourning in his prime. Chase guys off the three point line, favor their weak hands and funnel everything into the shotblocker. They'd be much, much better defensively with Dalembert. That's the weapon Collins is desperately missing on the defensive end.
Me and my brother were discussing Thabeet and Deandre Jordan and how Collins may not go for them because they are very one dimensional. He seems to like to turn a guy with offensive skills into a solid defender rather than have to worry about playing 4 on 5 down the other end, it is just an opinion, but that is why I feel he will stick with Spieghts.
Defense is all about BB IQ, coaching and effort in my mind. If you have a talented offensive player with high BB IQ, who is willing to put the effort at the defensive end, there is a good chance that he learns how to play defense (it might take a while, but it's more than possible). That's what Collins is banking on in a way (we'll see whether he is right on this one).
I remember a study a few years back (i think before the new-look Lakers first title), that suggested that the notion about teams with good defense performing better in the playoffs is actually not accurate. The conclusion of the study was that teams with good offense, that can improve their defense in the playoffs through better effort (which is expectable because it's the playoffs), actually win more often come playoff time. The Lakers are a prime example for this.
I think Collins agrees with this to a degree, but that is precisely why Speights plays that little. His BB IQ is terrible unfortunately. I think that's one of the understated reasons why Dalembert was traded as well.
I think defense is about athleticism and length first and foremost. Of course effort, smarts, and all that are great.
The best typically are damn good athletes though.
Dear Doug,
Did you always wish you had an older brother too? Maybe one day we can have a catch.
Love,
Rich
Just kidding, really good post, always enjoy these
Hahaha, I might have to use that one when I write to him next.
Can anyone with ESPN insider post(rephrase or anything really) what does Hollinger has to say about the Sixers being for real in his latest Per Diem? Thank you in advance
Never mind i found it on another site :)
Interesting post on production by opposing teams by position.
Sixers do the 3rd best job against SGs in the NBA.
Interesting. So the Sixers are better than average at every position, with C being the worst at 99% of expected production.
I'm assuming the great SG numbers are due to the Sixers doing such a great job at chasing opponents off the three-point line. SG is the position you'd expect to be most influenced by three-point shooting.
Interesting post indeed.
So according to the post the sixers have what the 5th best defense in the league over the past 5 games. That sounds reasonable i guess. It also shows the Bobcats are the worst team in the league defensively which is absolutely unbelievable.
The second table is also interesting. It says Iguodala is the 10th best player in the league over the last 10 games. Nice!!!
Meant 10 games of course not 5 that's a typo
I'm hoping the Sixers have reinvolved themselves in the Anthony discussions. Maybe, Iggy plus 2 of the Nets first round picks could bring Anthony to the Nets and Favors plus expiring to the Sixers.
I have an idea that I think would strengthen our team and also help our brethren to the north (NJ, not New York) get Carmelo Anthony. If the main premise to the deal is Favors, Murphy and picks for Carmelo and Harrington (which is what's being reported), what do you guys think about us including Thaddeus in the deal to Denver, while we would get back Kris Humphries? I can see Denver looking at their roster without Carmelo and wanting a young SF to replace him (frankly I don't even see another SF on their roster currently). Is Damion James good enough? Not sure. OR, how about this crazy deal (that again, I think benefits everyone): Denver gets Favors, Murphy, picks, Devin Harris, and Aminu (from LAC). Clippers get Billups and Thad. NJ gets Melo, Harrington, and Baron Davis. Sixers get Humphries. Again, I could see Denver telling NJ that it's going to take Favors, Murphy, picks, and a young SF to get the deal done, and I'm not sure if Damion James will be good enough for Denver. Sorry to hijack the message board with fantasy trades, but I had to get it out there to see if it makes as much sense as I think it does.
I'd take Humphries and Damion James for Thad in a heartbeat. I'd try hard to get Nocioni involved in the deal for an expiring, though.
I'm in favor of any move that would strengthen us this year, doesn't effect us long-term (tieing up cap) and doesn't trade away core pieces (Jrue, Igoudala). If we can move Lou, Thad, or Speights for something more productive that would help us right now and doesn't hurt us in the future, I say you gotta do it.
I don't see Humphries as a guy that can help us win more this year.
I don't understand the hype about James. He is just an average old rookie in my mind.
I like James, he improved his jump shot his senior year and is a tough defender and rebounder. He had 10 rebounds in limited minutes a game before he got hurt. A Desmond Mason type guy who I think will have a long career.
Horrible idea. Humphries is a borderline useless one dimensional player, while Young is a nice young piece. Additionally, we are not doing too bad so far in the rebounding department, why on earth would we want to get a guy like Humphries.
You call Humphries one dimensional and useless and then turn around and say Thad is a young piece. Thad is completely one-dimensional and went 2 straight years as a zero-dimensional player.
Thad is improving on the defensive end (he still has a long way to go but is getting better), and has significantly improved his passing. He is even rebounding better this year.
But at the end of the day we are comparing a 22 year guy who has shown flashes of being a very good player to a 25 year old one who is playing over his head right now.
Really? From what I've seen from him, he's a pretty productive big who could give us 15-20 solid minutes a night off the bench. I'm not high on Thaddeus at all. I hope we don't re-sign him.
For what it is worth, Humphries is on his 4th team already so must have some issues in spite of boarding well, because he and Thad were both picked around the same spot.
If I had to pick two guys in the nba to test for roids, it would be Chris Bosh last season (contract year) and Kris Humphries this year. Not that it matters, but he just suspiciously grew in the offseason. He's been pretty productive over the past two seasons, actually.
He's also an expiring contract. I'd think about it if you could get rid of Nocioni's contract in the deal. Wouldn't do Thad for Humprhies straight up, though. The Sixers don't have a lot of consistent offense, and I feel like Thad can provide it off the bench when they need it. Not sure Humphries helps this team more than Thad.
If the Denver/ Nets scenerio plays out and Denver goes to rebuild mode would you target Nene for our young pieces or a pick? He can play next to Hawes or Elton and is a physical player.
I would even put Turner in the deal if Afflalo is included because he would be the perfect compliment to Jrue and Iggy.
He's probably going to opt out after this season, so you'd be trading Turner + expirings to rent Nene for the rest of the season and keep Aflalo (maybe) for one more year. Seems short-sighted to me.
We don't need Aflalo. Nene is a nice player but you don't trade Turner for him.
I wouldn't trade Turner unless the pieces gotten were here long term. But Turner may have to go if Collins has continued success with a shooter between Jrue and Iggy. If you feel this team could challenge the next 3 years for a championship I would consider it.
Nene, Hawes
Brand, [#1] Plumlee?
Iggy, Nucioni, [2013 #1]
Afflalo, Meeks
Jrue, Lou
Imagine how good this team could defend.
Nene doesn't strike me as a particularly good defender, but you're missing the point. This is the rotation you'll have this season:
Nene, Hawes
Brand, Thad
Iguodala, Nocioni
Meeks, Afflalo
Jrue, Willliams
This is the rotation you have next season, after Nene opts out and leaves.
Hawes (if they extend him)
Brand, Thad (if they extend him)
Iguodala, Nocioni
Meeks, Afflalo,
Jrue, Williams
With the #1 in there somewhere. You're renting Nene. So you're giving up Turner for 5 months of Nene and Afflalo. That doesn't make sense to me.
2 trades I would do are iggy for wilson chandler Chandler is younger, taller, better rebounder and a better scorer or Iggy for gerald wallace. Wallace is accomplised scorer and rebounder