DFDepressed FanDepressed Fan All Sixers, all the time DFDepressed Fan Game 72 Thread: PHI @ MIA STORYCOMMENTS (416) sixerfan1220 on Mar 25 at 18:49 Reply +/- is the page running slow for anyone else? jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 18:58 Reply +/- ok by me. i fuckin hate bosh, really didnt think about him much before, but he just seems to be such a douchenozzle. every once in awhile ill go on youtube and watch that introduction of james wade and bosh with all the lights and smoke and whatnot and be filled with contempt. everytime the heat loses, an angel gets its wings. turners got to get some decent burn tonight right, esp. with a gimpy iguodala. GoSixers reply to jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 19:14 Reply +/- turners got to get some decent burn tonight right, esp. with a gimpy iguodala. Nocioni will get the burn GoSixers on Mar 25 at 19:18 Reply +/- You Stay Classy Philadlephia Fans Wonderful Free agent recruiting article stoned81 reply to GoSixers on Mar 25 at 19:20 Reply +/- LOL. Yelling at him while he gets bagels? Sad city. Brian reply to GoSixers on Mar 25 at 19:40 Reply +/- I saw that earlier. Surprised he wasn't vocal about wanting to be traded at some point. GoSixers reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:06 Reply +/- Surprised he wasn't vocal about wanting to be traded at some point. I'm not Though most won't give him credit for just playing through the idiotic lack of appreciation eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:27 Reply +/- While at the polo match, was Bosh calling this game out with the number-7-looking stance and peace sign number two? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:30 Reply +/- btw, oh how I wish Andre could have a full strength lower extremity, I think we would roll these cats if that were the case tonight. We played the crap out of those guys down there last time. I remember that game vividly, when Meeks really displayed how much he could help out the team overall. That was the first time it showed itself. Jason on Mar 25 at 19:37 Reply +/- ugh, i hate looking at Miami weather. Going to snow here on sunday :|. GoSixers reply to Jason on Mar 25 at 19:38 Reply +/- Miami weather has humidity Santa Barbara weather lacks humidity :) Brian on Mar 25 at 19:39 Reply +/- I forgot how much pregame bullshit they do on Heat broadcasts. Undoubtedly, it's a feeble attempt to get more lame fans in their seats before the tip. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:41 Reply +/- Come on Jrue, need a good one from you buddy. Just get to the line a lil' more. Pick up Andre's slack like you did the last time he was out. stoned81 on Mar 25 at 19:42 Reply +/- over/under on Turner's minutes: 1 Brian reply to stoned81 on Mar 25 at 19:45 Reply +/- Over. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:43 Reply +/- Is this the damn pregame or something? Tip anyone.... Brian on Mar 25 at 19:44 Reply +/- Hawes loses the tip. Here we go. Bosh to the line on the first possession after 22 seconds of good D. F me. Can't have Brand in foul trouble. Jason on Mar 25 at 19:44 Reply +/- bavetta officiating lul. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:45 Reply +/- Whew, nice play for a Hawes J. Good look. Xsago on Mar 25 at 19:45 Reply +/- Meeks on Wade early. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:45 Reply +/- Was that a zone, or did AI9 switch off LeBron? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:45 Reply +/- Lebron is going to go at Dre everytime he gets it, as he should. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:46 Reply +/- Good hands Jodie. Quick little sucker. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:46 Reply +/- Three straight turnovers for MIA, turns into 2 points. Need to convert better than that. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:47 Reply +/- JODIE! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:47 Reply +/- We look so much quicker than them for some reason. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:47 Reply +/- AI9 laughs at Bibby's "contest" Jason on Mar 25 at 19:48 Reply +/- Iggy looks healthy Brian on Mar 25 at 19:49 Reply +/- Iguodala doesn't have his legs under him on those jumpers. Shooting them off one leg. goaltend probably twice on MIA there. Fuck, didn't realize bavetta was doing this game. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:49 Reply +/- Dre looks more spry, however slightly. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:50 Reply +/- Is Wade on Iguodala, or was that a switch? Yeah, switch. Nice drive, Jrue. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:50 Reply +/- ugh bavetta didn't realize it either Jrue needs to look to set guys up more, rather than shoot, though he's quite adept at that. Brian reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:52 Reply +/- Is Wade on him, or Bibby? They've been in the half court so rarely, I haven't picked up the matchups. eddies' heady's reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 19:54 Reply +/- thought it was Bibby mostly TS on Mar 25 at 19:51 Reply +/- Stop with the jumpers please. joeykey on Mar 25 at 19:51 Reply +/- heat look sloppy Brian on Mar 25 at 19:51 Reply +/- Good start. Don't pat yourself on the back, keep up the pressure. Xsago on Mar 25 at 19:52 Reply +/- Nice start. It seems like both teams are pumped up for ths one. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:53 Reply +/- Bibby's on Jrue. I'd attack that. Ugh, can't turn the ball over. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:54 Reply +/- Hawes, don't leave Bosh to help on that. Jrue had Bibby. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:54 Reply +/- come on Jrue, bad shot Brian reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:55 Reply +/- Pretty sure there were 2 seconds on the clock. Not much of a choice. eddies' heady's reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 19:59 Reply +/- oh didn't know that Jason on Mar 25 at 19:54 Reply +/- the only player softer than Bosh is Hawes. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:55 Reply +/- WOW. EB w/ the lob to Hawes and he finishes. stoned81 reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 19:56 Reply +/- SICK!!!! Brian reply to stoned81 on Mar 25 at 19:57 Reply +/- Knew you'd love that one. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:56 Reply +/- We can smother these guys in the halfcourt game with the scheme the staff employs. Make that Curry and McKie according to commentator, said Doug gave them the defense. Brian on Mar 25 at 19:56 Reply +/- Good contest on that Bibby three. JODIE!!! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:56 Reply +/- Our transition D is good early, have to keep that up. das411 on Mar 25 at 19:56 Reply +/- JO-3!!! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:57 Reply +/- Wade posting Jrue, ugh that's a good matchup they can exploit, wonder will he go to it more out of this timeout. Brian reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 19:58 Reply +/- They had to create the switch first, which probably won't be that hard to do. sixerfan1220 on Mar 25 at 19:58 Reply +/- drive on bibby, if they help make the pass, if they dont make the lay-up joeykey on Mar 25 at 19:58 Reply +/- I didn't know the Heat finally figured out that running pick-and-rolls with lebron is affective eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:00 Reply +/- Steal by Meeks.. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:00 Reply +/- Thad and Lou in for Jrue and Brand. This was not an effective perimeter trio according to the research the other day. Lou dunk on the break, nice. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:01 Reply +/- Sound defense by Meeks on Wade forcing a terrible shot. Just good D Brian on Mar 25 at 20:01 Reply +/- Great D by Meeks there to force a really tough shot by Wade. More of that. Ugh, Noc. I guess you can put him on Miller and that's not a terrible mismatch. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:01 Reply +/- Jesus, he's guarding LeBron. stoned81 reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:04 Reply +/- Worst defensive matchup in NBA history? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:02 Reply +/- Thad, but you need to face Miller up, he can't guard you. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:02 Reply +/- Zero playmakers on the floor, but they've added onto the lead. Miller is such a skirt. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:02 Reply +/- Did Meeks just steal another one? missed it das411 on Mar 25 at 20:03 Reply +/- woah, Spencah should do that more often! Brian on Mar 25 at 20:03 Reply +/- Nice D, Nocioni. Rodney Buford reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:06 Reply +/- That's a poster somewhere right? Brian reply to Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 20:07 Reply +/- You'd need a serious wide-angle lens to get Noc into the shot. He was about 4 steps behind him. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:04 Reply +/- OK, Noc is nice but you can't ask him to guard LB can you? come on Doug TS reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:05 Reply +/- LBJ threw that down b/c AI9 said he noticed that he doesn't do it as often. There's an article on ESPN about it. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:04 Reply +/- BANG. Lou for the three. Sick! Brian on Mar 25 at 20:04 Reply +/- PHI 27, MIA 20 after 1. Great quarter, give me three more just like it. Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 20:05 Reply +/- Jesus Lou - that was a 10/10 on the difficulty scale. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:05 Reply +/- Lou 3! to end it.... good quarter, just keep making it an ugly halfcourt game for them and we can beat them das411 on Mar 25 at 20:05 Reply +/- hahaha that last three would've gotten a nice long rumbling LOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUU at home...and a standing O from the crowd, plus some #showyaluv 3s! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:06 Reply +/- Who are they going to put on Thad? go at whoever it is eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:08 Reply +/- The Heat for all their "pregame" stuff, just non-game action, they sure do give a lot of love to the opposing team, better than Comcast's fluff, I'll tell you that. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:08 Reply +/- Man, fuck you Bavetta. TS reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:09 Reply +/- Bavetta should never be allowed to ref a Miami game. AJ on Mar 25 at 20:08 Reply +/- Do the Heat expect to play Bosh with 4 scrubs and do something?? Didn't they watch him in Toronto??? He's not LeBron! jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 20:08 Reply +/- omg i love eric snow but he might be retarded Brian on Mar 25 at 20:09 Reply +/- Bosh on Thad, Anthony on a switch there. Can't settle like that. Jason on Mar 25 at 20:09 Reply +/- please let nocioni ask for a trade this off season. stoned81 reply to Jason on Mar 25 at 20:11 Reply +/- he's out there for comedy right? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:09 Reply +/- come on Jrue, brick... Brian on Mar 25 at 20:10 Reply +/- Keep the pressure on them. Good work, Thad. Wow, what a fucking pass from Jrue to Thad. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:10 Reply +/- Come on, put the Oh, sweet pass from Jrue behind-the-back....nice eddies' heady's reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:11 Reply +/- wanted to say put the pedal down on them when their bench is in, just keep extending this lead when their scrubs are in jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 20:11 Reply +/- wow the heat look lethargic compared to us das411 on Mar 25 at 20:11 Reply +/- SWEET pass by Jrue to actually turn that play into something! AJ on Mar 25 at 20:11 Reply +/- Unbelievable that we are playing Nocioni significant minutes....I just can't fucking stand it. Pisses me off stoned81 reply to AJ on Mar 25 at 20:14 Reply +/- he couldn't be worse. Spoelstra saved us from Doug's brain fart by removing LeBron with Nocioni still out there Jason on Mar 25 at 20:12 Reply +/- this noche latin gear commercial is awful. Jason reply to Jason on Mar 25 at 20:12 Reply +/- Whose the girl in the expedia commercial? Brian on Mar 25 at 20:12 Reply +/- That Jrue play should make sportscenter, but I guarantee they show the LBJ chasedown instead. Even though the Sixers scored on that possession anyway. TS on Mar 25 at 20:13 Reply +/- Only Heat players to Score so far: LeBron, Damp, and Bosh. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:13 Reply +/- Noc on Wade now, which is the same as having no one on him. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:14 Reply +/- Wade's first score? Dare I say Meeks shut him down for a quarter. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:14 Reply +/- AI9 for Noc, mercifully. stoned81 reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:17 Reply +/- Please god have Turner replace Iggy in the second half instead of Nocioni. That was just plain scary. And Doug had him covering LeBron and Wade! WTF!!!! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:15 Reply +/- Jrue should have passed that, but it was called a block... Brian on Mar 25 at 20:16 Reply +/- Foot on the line! Mark it zero! Brian on Mar 25 at 20:17 Reply +/- Jrue got a hand on that pass for the steal. AI9 on the other end. This is fucking pretty. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:17 Reply +/- Noc or not, come on guys, just go with what Doug is doing, I mean we're up 12. Just roll with it and enjoy it, only a suggestion. das411 on Mar 25 at 20:17 Reply +/- Iggy! dare I say that was a Jordan-esque play? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:18 Reply +/- We just look confident as hell. Meeks with the strip ha Brian reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:19 Reply +/- That was Jrue. Credit where it's due. eddies' heady's reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:21 Reply +/- saw Jodie swat down and end up with it... you sure? Brian reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:26 Reply +/- Yeah, they showed the replay. Jrue stripped it, Jodie picked it up. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:19 Reply +/- Man, they're just swarming the paint. AI9 w/ the strong take. Now hit the freebies. Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 20:19 Reply +/- Magloire, Dampier, Miller - welcome to 2001. jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 20:19 Reply +/- wow did magliore get rejected by the rim? Brian reply to jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 20:21 Reply +/- He didn't get high enough to get rejected by the rim. I think it was the net. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:20 Reply +/- We're kicking their ass, look at the Heat's body language. heh lol Rodney Buford reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:23 Reply +/- Lazy and sloppy - no way they play like that in a playoff game. eddies' heady's reply to Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 20:25 Reply +/- Yeah but to a certain extent, we caused alot of that with our individual and team defense. Our D was no slouch in creating some of those turnovers. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:22 Reply +/- Horseshit call. Again, fuck you Bavetta. Jason reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:23 Reply +/- was very close. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:23 Reply +/- Let's just hope Bavetta doesn't try to stem the tide of this game in this next half. Sad to even go there... das411 on Mar 25 at 20:23 Reply +/- so does Collins just keep the pedal to the metal and play the starters plus Lou and Thad for as long as he can tonight? That may be the only way to keep the lead big enough that it's Bavetta-proof... Jason on Mar 25 at 20:25 Reply +/- LBJ walked there Brian on Mar 25 at 20:25 Reply +/- Wade is having his way now. Good timeout by Collins, draw something up, keep this lead in double figures. stoned81 reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:28 Reply +/- Hopefully he'll draw up a new defender on Wade. Meeks is useless on him. TS on Mar 25 at 20:26 Reply +/- WTF. They let him get straight to the rim twice. stoned81 reply to TS on Mar 25 at 20:27 Reply +/- "They" as in Meeks. He can't guard Wade to save his life. Turner please. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:26 Reply +/- Just keep this lead around 8 going into the half, just 4 more minutes of the same. make it a grimy game. das411 on Mar 25 at 20:28 Reply +/- random tweet seen before this game: >> Mospeights16 - A successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks others have thrown at him. about 8 hours ago via Echofon hmm... Brian on Mar 25 at 20:28 Reply +/- Called Jrue in the post out of the timeout, bad entry pass by Thad. He puts that pass toward the middle of the floor and Jrue has Bibby sealed. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:29 Reply +/- Bad turnover there. Come on. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:29 Reply +/- Dammit Jrue. jumping before passing and out of bounds at that....shit Brian on Mar 25 at 20:29 Reply +/- Jrue's getting yanked for that. Bavetta called one against the Heat. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:30 Reply +/- Our transition D isn't what it was earlier, Wade is def trying to leak out. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:31 Reply +/- We've lost ahold of the grip we just had on this game, quickly. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:31 Reply +/- What's this now, a 14-2 run since we had a 16-point lead. 12 for Wade, 2 for Lebron. stoned81 on Mar 25 at 20:31 Reply +/- When will Doug realize that Meeks can't guard Wade? Never? jkay on Mar 25 at 20:32 Reply +/- damnit, need help on Wade ASAp Brian on Mar 25 at 20:32 Reply +/- Lou off the ball, nice. Sorry, LBJ didn't score. This will make it 15 straight for Wade. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:32 Reply +/- Come on Lou, Wade has taken over. Wish someone would rotate over when he breaks contain. stoned81 reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:33 Reply +/- wish the coach would take out Meeks since he can't guard Wade and can't shoot right now, leaving him 100% useless eddies' heady's reply to stoned81 on Mar 25 at 20:36 Reply +/- so who's your suggestion to put on him? assuming LB is out there with him... stoned81 reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:38 Reply +/- Holiday, Turner, a fan in the stands? Any would be better than the revolving door named Jodie Meeks. eddies' heady's reply to stoned81 on Mar 25 at 20:43 Reply +/- ok,.. cuz that wasn't reasonable, you saw how he ate Jrue up too,.... not in a negative way but i really would like to see Turner's try at him, I would expect the same results. TS on Mar 25 at 20:33 Reply +/- Come on. Swap out Meeks already. Put Wade on the ground already. Rich on Mar 25 at 20:33 Reply +/- Jodie can't keep Wade in front of him. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:33 Reply +/- Lou with a shitty turnover. Can't have it. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:33 Reply +/- Lou turnover, runout....cant' have that Brian on Mar 25 at 20:35 Reply +/- Down 1. Let's see how they respond. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:35 Reply +/- They had 26 pts just a min ago, about 5 ago to be exact, now they have 45 ugh TS on Mar 25 at 20:36 Reply +/- Another team is shooting lights out from the line against us too. jkay on Mar 25 at 20:36 Reply +/- passing up open shots; never good Brian on Mar 25 at 20:36 Reply +/- Lou should've taken that three. jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 20:36 Reply +/- bullshit call thanks dick bavetta Brian on Mar 25 at 20:37 Reply +/- No illegal pick there? AJ on Mar 25 at 20:37 Reply +/- We are better off playing the Bulls or the Celtics. It's obvious. We are not getting any calls any calls against the Heat. Not only that, the Hweat will get all the bullshit calls in their favor. This is why I want the Celtics in the 1st Rd. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:37 Reply +/- Jrue, next time go over or under, not into... Lou! das411 on Mar 25 at 20:38 Reply +/- DAMN how does that Lou shot go in??? jkay on Mar 25 at 20:38 Reply +/- awesome das411 on Mar 25 at 20:39 Reply +/- YES more Thad please!! (and maybe Turner on DWade, maybe that could possibly kinda slow him down?) jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 20:39 Reply +/- oh turner in for the last 2.6 seconds Brian on Mar 25 at 20:39 Reply +/- Atta boy, Thad. Hey, Turner got in for 1 second. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:40 Reply +/- Almost even, but just painful ending to that last 6 min. Only thing he can do is encourage them. Keep it close and try to get it at the end. Tray on Mar 25 at 20:41 Reply +/- I had a feeling when Iguodala got called for a charge back when we were up 14 that the whole game was about to turn around. New York is losing at home to the Bucks at halftime; Jennings scored 23, while Bogut has 9 and 11. Typically, Melo, who gets all the blame for how much they suck, has 15 on 9 shots. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:41 Reply +/- PHI 50, MIA 51 at the half. Not sure what the hell you can do against a run like that. Good that they stiffened at the end of the half and scored 6 on their last two possessions. Can't let that run define the rest of the game, need to find a way to keep Wade out of the paint. stoned81 reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:42 Reply +/- Not having Meeks guarding Wade would've been a start. Brian reply to stoned81 on Mar 25 at 20:44 Reply +/- I'm not sure there's anyone on the planet who can keep Wade out of the lane. I expect Jrue will take him in the second half, Turner should get a shot as well. stoned81 reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 20:46 Reply +/- Yep, Jrue or Turner should've been put on him after Wade's first drive around Meeks. Collins left him on him for the entire 17-2 run. I'd be surprised if the adjustment is actually made though. stoned81 on Mar 25 at 20:41 Reply +/- If Collins doesn't make adjustments, we have no chance to win this game. Nocioni on LeBron I thought was the biggest joke in the world, until I saw Meeks on Wade. Collins' slept through that 17-2 run. Inexcusable. He's not paid to spectate. William on Mar 25 at 20:41 Reply +/- This is a situation where a coach can be stubborn. Turner is a better match up defensively against the heat than noc. Turner gives u a better chance to win in this situation Brian reply to William on Mar 25 at 20:43 Reply +/- Agreed. eddies' heady's reply to William on Mar 25 at 20:45 Reply +/- It could be said this is just complaining just to be complaining, because Doug only played the guy 5 minutes. We didn't lose much or maybe any the little time Noc was on the court, how rare that was. stoned81 reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 20:48 Reply +/- Thankfully Spoelstra is a bad coach and they only attacked Nocioni 3 times (1 Lebron, 2 Wade). They of coursed scored all 3 times. That's 6 points. Throw in 6 in the 2nd half, and that's 12, could easily end up the difference in the game. AJ on Mar 25 at 20:42 Reply +/- If I were Turner there, I would have told Collins to go fuck himself Rich on Mar 25 at 20:43 Reply +/- This is pretty simple. They need to do two things: 1. Eliminate dumb turnovers. The Heat are the only team in the league more dangerous of a steal than the Sixers. 2. Help on the drivers. Jodie can't guard Wade at all, that's no surprise. What is a surprise is that he is getting dunk after dunk. If Mike Miller beats them with threes so be it, but no more dunks. Collapse on him. Tray reply to Rich on Mar 25 at 20:48 Reply +/- If we lose, our failing to score as much as we should have off of all their early turnovers will be the reason. I think at the start they had 6 turnovers and we scored off of just 3 and were only leading 13-8. Marcus on Mar 25 at 20:46 Reply +/- Or you can see what turner can do on the defensive end. das411 on Mar 25 at 20:47 Reply +/- ...not to make everybody actually depressed, but I just realized something that may be really really frightening - what if Collins is playing Igoudala so much, and gunning so hard for games like this, because he knows a five-seed and a chance to take out one or two top teams is the ceiling for this team? If Thad leaves for big money this offseason...and the new CBA essentially locks them out of getting any center better than #00 this offseason...and Brand, Turner or Iggy start aging in dog years like the Phillies already are...then maybe having a #6 seed team that can take a big chunk out of anybody they play is the best this team will be, and Collins realizes that, so playing to win right now isn't such a bad idea after all... Tray reply to das411 on Mar 25 at 20:52 Reply +/- I just think that Collins, like most coaches of non-awful, non-elite teams, are geared for extremely short-term success. Only coaches of bad teams and coaches of great teams, like San Antonio, don't gun for games this late in the season. Xsago reply to das411 on Mar 25 at 20:54 Reply +/- That is the absolutely worst case scenario. It's equally possible as Turner and Jrue becoming stars and the team becoming a top 5 team (best case scenario). The reality is somewhere in the middle. jaypiddler reply to das411 on Mar 25 at 20:54 Reply +/- aging in dog years? turner? dude just got to the league das411 reply to jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 20:58 Reply +/- less than a year after a broken vertabra, no? How do you think Turner takes a bodyslam like that one Spencer put on whoever that was in the first quarter? William on Mar 25 at 20:48 Reply +/- This is a game where I think at the very least Meeks and turner should be splitting time at the 2 like they were doing up until about 10 games ago. Tuner should spell iggy at the 3 as well. No reason Evan shouldn't get 20-25 minutes in a game like this. stoned81 reply to William on Mar 25 at 20:52 Reply +/- Not sure anyone disagrees with this except eddie's headys and Doug Collins. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:57 Reply +/- Here we go. Meeks to the hole to start it and reclaim the lead. Xsago on Mar 25 at 20:57 Reply +/- All in all decent half. Only 4 Heat players have scored with the big three scoring 47. Keep that up. Three players can't beat a team alone. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:57 Reply +/- AI9 w/ the +1. Let's go, jump right on them. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:58 Reply +/- Sissy 20-footer. I'm fine w/ a contested three by LBJ, by the way. Brian on Mar 25 at 20:59 Reply +/- JODIE!!! Brian on Mar 25 at 21:00 Reply +/- Jrue fed Brand between Bosh's legs there. Personal and tech for Brand. Xsago on Mar 25 at 21:01 Reply +/- Brand needs to wake up eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:01 Reply +/- Just keep grinding.... jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 21:01 Reply +/- love it when brand shows some fire Brian on Mar 25 at 21:02 Reply +/- Atta boy, Jrue. Come on now. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:02 Reply +/- Turnover and tech on LBJ! jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 21:03 Reply +/- these miami fans are pansies Brian on Mar 25 at 21:04 Reply +/- Fuck me. What happened on that board? Did Hawes tip it away from Iguodala, or did Iguodala just lose it? jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 21:04 Reply +/- wade to james oop is pretty fuckin sick das411 on Mar 25 at 21:05 Reply +/- ouch, that may have been the game right there if they don't answer back...does Turner get close to that rebound if he's in there? Xsago on Mar 25 at 21:05 Reply +/- Come on Andra don't try to steal the rebound from Hawes... AJ on Mar 25 at 21:05 Reply +/- Spencer Hawes shooting a 3. Just what we need against Miami's interior defense Brian on Mar 25 at 21:06 Reply +/- 2/8 for EB, need more than that. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:07 Reply +/- Pretty P&R w/ the sissy stuff at the end. jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 21:07 Reply +/- sissy layup Brian on Mar 25 at 21:09 Reply +/- Sissy hook after a series of o-boards. Keep the pressure on, please. das411 on Mar 25 at 21:10 Reply +/- a rebound for Spencer! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:10 Reply +/- Jrue being aggressive. Him and Meeks are going to grow exponentially together. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:10 Reply +/- Atta boy, Jrue. They're running that Wade/LBJ P&R every time, and Meeks switching onto LBJ is a big fucking problem. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:11 Reply +/- come on Jrue, that's too early in the clock. make them play D some... Brian reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:12 Reply +/- Too early to drive to the hoop? eddies' heady's reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 21:14 Reply +/- yeah he drove but his look wasn't clean enough, sort of forced Brian on Mar 25 at 21:12 Reply +/- Don't fucking hang your heads, this is a three-point game. stoned81 reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 21:13 Reply +/- subs please, and not just 2 eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:13 Reply +/- If Spencer could have just hit half of the good shots he's had tonight, we'd be way up, though that one wasn't. Let Jodie or EB or Dre or even Jrue take some of those looks. Guess that's all of em...ha Shawn on Mar 25 at 21:14 Reply +/- If you're Miami, you're very happy Hawes is shooting the ball. Tray on Mar 25 at 21:14 Reply +/- Watching this game, it's obvious that Miami sans LeBron wouldn't be very good. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:15 Reply +/- Hawes +1! Nice. Hit the freebie. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:16 Reply +/- Good active defense there. Everyone with moving feet and hands. Shawn on Mar 25 at 21:16 Reply +/- Good D Brian on Mar 25 at 21:16 Reply +/- Truner instead of Noc. Nice runout by Jodie. Let's fucking go. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:17 Reply +/- Meeks coming out of that cannon....8 pts this quarter...he's useless...lollll das411 on Mar 25 at 21:17 Reply +/- yesssss Jodie! Brian on Mar 25 at 21:17 Reply +/- LOU THREE!!!!!!!!!! Great ball movement. Everyone touched it. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:17 Reply +/- Lou 3 at buzzer! he's been big tonight Brian on Mar 25 at 21:18 Reply +/- Lou's feeling it. Tray on Mar 25 at 21:18 Reply +/- What is with the major usage for Hawes? He's averaging a shot every other minute. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:18 Reply +/- Lou again... Los5782 on Mar 25 at 21:18 Reply +/- BANG BANG BANG lets go sixers das411 on Mar 25 at 21:18 Reply +/- holy hell, is Lou trying to earn POTG?? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:19 Reply +/- How crazy is it that they've almost doubled us up on rebounds, yet we're still up 4? wow Brian on Mar 25 at 21:19 Reply +/- Well, the parade to the line started really late in the quarter. That's good, just don't let it continue into the fourth. Los5782 on Mar 25 at 21:20 Reply +/- rebounding is gonna kill us Shawn on Mar 25 at 21:20 Reply +/- What's the book on LBJ, are you supposed to give him the 3pt line, or play tight on him like ET is doing? Brian reply to Shawn on Mar 25 at 21:21 Reply +/- You really can't give him anything. You just have to hope he settles. jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 21:20 Reply +/- holy crap lou in a zone Brian on Mar 25 at 21:20 Reply +/- HOLY FUCKING LOU! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:20 Reply +/- Lou stroking from deep! get a stop Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 21:20 Reply +/- Lou "2 for 1" Williams. Insane clip right now for him. Xsago on Mar 25 at 21:20 Reply +/- Lou is out of his mind tonight from three. Los5782 on Mar 25 at 21:21 Reply +/- WTF OMFGGGG WHO GOT THAT FOUL ON THE SIXERS?? fuck refererees r such fuckin pricks n joel anthony looks uglier than usual ! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:22 Reply +/- Hell of a quarter to fight like they did and get the damn lead back. Just don't let any BS calls start occuring by hwsnbn... Los5782 on Mar 25 at 21:22 Reply +/- excuse my outburst i was just upset Brian on Mar 25 at 21:22 Reply +/- PHI 82, MIA 77 after three. Great third, come on now. Give us 12 minutes of insane effort and bring this shit home. das411 on Mar 25 at 21:22 Reply +/- damn is this a game fellas! Shawn on Mar 25 at 21:23 Reply +/- unreal performance das411 on Mar 25 at 21:24 Reply +/- yknow, we haven't seen #9 in a while...full fourth quarter for him maybe? Brian on Mar 25 at 21:25 Reply +/- Lou gets contact on the jumper. Fuck man, ride Lou the rest of the way if he's playing like this. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:25 Reply +/- Lou to the line to start...good sign he can be huge in the playoffs........ das411 on Mar 25 at 21:26 Reply +/- THAD! Brian on Mar 25 at 21:26 Reply +/- Turner on Wade, they doubled w/ Brand and Bosh went right to the hoop for an easy one. HOLY SHIT!!!! Did you see that dunk by Thad? jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 21:26 Reply +/- thaddeus almost ripped the rim off Spencer Flaws on Mar 25 at 21:27 Reply +/- well we give lou a hard time on this blog. But i don't understand it. He kills us most of the time. And sometimes he just gets on insane, out of this world hot streaks like this. He makes the toughest shots and i don't get it. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:27 Reply +/- What was that Jrue? attempt at defense? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:27 Reply +/- Alright, come on Lou....cant have that now Brian on Mar 25 at 21:28 Reply +/- Come on, no turnovers. Can't afford those. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:28 Reply +/- There you go, Turner. Come on. jaypiddler on Mar 25 at 21:28 Reply +/- the kidet, would love to see him get going Los5782 on Mar 25 at 21:28 Reply +/- GO ET BABY!!! das411 on Mar 25 at 21:29 Reply +/- oh hey, rebound and then points for Turner, maybe we should see more of that eh Doug?? William reply to das411 on Mar 25 at 21:30 Reply +/- Exactly!!!!!! Brian on Mar 25 at 21:30 Reply +/- EB! eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:30 Reply +/- EB O-board! yes Spencer Flaws on Mar 25 at 21:30 Reply +/- Evan on the board baby!! When's the last time he has scored? Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 21:30 Reply +/- Elton outrebounding 3 guys by himself at times tonight. Shawn reply to Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 21:31 Reply +/- EB is a beast positioner. He's basically doing the dirty work on his own, with help from the guards. Los5782 on Mar 25 at 21:30 Reply +/- GO EB WITH OREBOUND & THE SHOT! Don pacifico on Mar 25 at 21:31 Reply +/- Lou Williams showing why he should be getting more playing time tonight, what lit a fire under his butt? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:31 Reply +/- This effort and execution and shot-making is unbelieveable. Tray on Mar 25 at 21:32 Reply +/- You know who Turner reminds me a little of? The young Boris Diaw (or Diaw-Riffiod as he was known back then). Remember those years in Atlanta when he just didn't do anything? Then he went to Phoenix and for a while was a pretty solid three-tool player. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:32 Reply +/- Can't believe they're still slaughtering us on the glass. but we're up das411 on Mar 25 at 21:32 Reply +/- yknow, if Spencer Hawes had as much BAMF in him as EB did on that rebound, this team would be damn near unbeatable... Brian on Mar 25 at 21:33 Reply +/- Fucking o-boards. 6 points they shouldn't have. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:33 Reply +/- 6-0 run. Gotta get Iguodala back in there. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:33 Reply +/- Jrue struggling with screen for Wade...Jrue just can't check him as can no one... Brian reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:34 Reply +/- Turner did the best job. Los5782 on Mar 25 at 21:33 Reply +/- kay , i give up on life, i cant go on no more, fuck dwade Xsago on Mar 25 at 21:34 Reply +/- Sixers need a quick timeout. ASAP eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:35 Reply +/- Those friggin' o-boards we keep giving up! ugh Brian on Mar 25 at 21:36 Reply +/- Tie game, and I believe MIA is in the penalty now. Gonna be a tough 7:46 to end this game. Lou should be back in the game. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:36 Reply +/- Come on, we're right in this....Just keep plugging away and cut off the lane. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:37 Reply +/- Thad. Pretty. James Jones guarding him is a joke. No help on Wade. Fuck me. das411 on Mar 25 at 21:37 Reply +/- Thad with a man's...um, bucket, right there - but what do you do to stop DWade besides maybe let Lou run the prevent offense? eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:37 Reply +/- Shit bad possession. Damn 3 from Jones...sheesh come on Brian on Mar 25 at 21:38 Reply +/- Don't fucking crumble now. Three-point game, that was their run, you go on your own now. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:38 Reply +/- Evan having an occasional lapse. Xsago on Mar 25 at 21:39 Reply +/- Heat supporting cast: First half: 4 points Second half (so far): 13 That ain't gonna cut it, with the way their stars are playing. don pacifico on Mar 25 at 21:39 Reply +/- just keep playing JRue holiday 35 minutes a game Collins TS on Mar 25 at 21:39 Reply +/- Same thing that happened in the 2nd. Don't fall apart now. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:39 Reply +/- Son of a bitch. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:39 Reply +/- Dammit if spencer could just make half of those...shit he can't and they're good looks eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:40 Reply +/- Terrible shot and iso by Dre. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:40 Reply +/- No offense being run. That's a terrible shot by Iguodala. Give the ball to Lou. AJ on Mar 25 at 21:40 Reply +/- Game Over Xsago on Mar 25 at 21:41 Reply +/- OMG what happened to the offense. Suddenly Iguodala isos? Los5782 on Mar 25 at 21:41 Reply +/- i just closed the feed i was watching...too depressing TS on Mar 25 at 21:41 Reply +/- I thought Turner was playing Wade well. Bring him back. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:42 Reply +/- ugh Jrue finish...charge! by Meeks Brian on Mar 25 at 21:42 Reply +/- Jodie drawing the charge in transition. Salomon on Mar 25 at 21:42 Reply +/- Wade blowns by Meeks again. Surprise surprise. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:43 Reply +/- Just keep this lead under 5 going in the next TV timeout. please.... das411 on Mar 25 at 21:43 Reply +/- wow a foul on one of the big three - that makes 4 of them this game? Brian on Mar 25 at 21:43 Reply +/- 8-point game. 4:23 to go. Not sure what you can do against this. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:44 Reply +/- Dammit Dre, good hustle by Jodie to slow that up but was sure to be a hoop..... TS on Mar 25 at 21:44 Reply +/- Dick Bavetta: "Don't worry D-Wade. I won't let you lose." Brian on Mar 25 at 21:45 Reply +/- Well, at least it looks like the Knicks are going to lose. don pacifico on Mar 25 at 21:45 Reply +/- Doug Collins- most overrated coach in the NBA jkay on Mar 25 at 21:45 Reply +/- effing Wade. das411 on Mar 25 at 21:45 Reply +/- well do they sack up and make it close or is this over? William on Mar 25 at 21:45 Reply +/- The 3 guard line up???!!! Didn't like it, but understood it. A lot of mis matches on d. TS on Mar 25 at 21:46 Reply +/- Unless Lou gets hot and Wade gets hit by a bus, this feels like it's over eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:46 Reply +/- Get this back, it's so frustrating, we were rolling now we've wilted. tk76 on Mar 25 at 21:47 Reply +/- Where is Rick Mahorn to deliver the hard foul? Spencer Flaws reply to tk76 on Mar 25 at 21:49 Reply +/- yeah or we could bring in bill laimbeer to put out a hard foul every now and then. don pacifico on Mar 25 at 21:47 Reply +/- WTF is meeks going out instead of Holiday? we need our best 3 pt shooter on the court. or am i missing something eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:47 Reply +/- One more run? turnover...sorry................ Brian on Mar 25 at 21:47 Reply +/- Man, saw that coming a mile away. TS on Mar 25 at 21:48 Reply +/- Come on Jrue. You could see that a fucking mile away. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:49 Reply +/- Dre you've got to make that. You went created the space and didn't finish it. TS reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:49 Reply +/- He looks like he has dead legs. Brian reply to TS on Mar 25 at 21:50 Reply +/- one leg eddies' heady's reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 21:56 Reply +/- and its so pronounced.. it's why i keep saying they should just shut him down and hope we end up w/ the Celts who we can beat contrary to public opinion... but just concede at worst going in seventh no matter the opponent Brian on Mar 25 at 21:49 Reply +/- I'd like to another look at that play Jrue just made. Think it was clean, not that it matters. Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 21:49 Reply +/- Tough call on Jrue there - looked good to me. jaypiddler reply to Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 21:55 Reply +/- the sheriff das411 on Mar 25 at 21:51 Reply +/- damn it all...sure would be nice if we had somebody big enough to come down with some of those boards... eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:51 Reply +/- This seems like two different games within a game. Maybe four different ones in a sense. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:51 Reply +/- Get a stop here. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:52 Reply +/- Come on keep digging.....just get one stop and please don't foul. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:52 Reply +/- Alright. Stop here and it gets interesting. Come on. TS on Mar 25 at 21:52 Reply +/- LBJ fouled Brand on that dunk. jkay on Mar 25 at 21:53 Reply +/- this is not over. more stops. CB on Mar 25 at 21:54 Reply +/- Doug is just playing laying low until the Playoffs. Then he's gonna pounce on this Heat squad like a cougar with some game plan -- I'm with Brian. jkay reply to CB on Mar 25 at 21:57 Reply +/- they rely so much on 2 guys that if you can take one away; it's game! Brian on Mar 25 at 21:54 Reply +/- Game. Why was Thad so far off him? TS reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 21:55 Reply +/- He's been way off him since he came in. William on Mar 25 at 21:56 Reply +/- If we play the heat in the playoffs we can go 6 with them. das411 on Mar 25 at 21:56 Reply +/- hey Zumoff, when Miami starts on that run, you put in Turner to stay in front of DWade and Speights to make LBJ go right through him to the basket! Tray on Mar 25 at 21:57 Reply +/- Boston's down by 1 with 34 seconds. They could cough up the second seed. We'd have a shot at them in the first round, Rondo's not healthy and their frontcourt's not too good without Perkins. Spencer Flaws on Mar 25 at 21:57 Reply +/- yeah but really. Spencer hawes is the worst center ever. 5 boards in 26 minutes for a 7'1 big is pathetic Jason on Mar 25 at 21:57 Reply +/- let's go bobcats. I don't want to see a Heat vs Sixers series. Brian on Mar 25 at 21:58 Reply +/- PHI 99, MIA 111 Final. Tough end to a great game. Learn some lessons, may see these guys again. CB on Mar 25 at 21:59 Reply +/- I just got home so didn't see any of the game, but it looks like a lot of the Sixers had rather sub-par games according to the box score, yet they were in it until the end...Anyone have a haiku or one or two sentences how that happened? CB reply to CB on Mar 25 at 22:00 Reply +/- *one or two sentences to explain tk76 reply to CB on Mar 25 at 22:02 Reply +/- Sixers made a run. That Lebron, D-Wade undone And Hawes is a Bum. eddies' heady's reply to CB on Mar 25 at 22:02 Reply +/- Didn't box out Who will guard Wade Charlie H reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 22:34 Reply +/- Who else? We have the best guy, #9 - he's just hurt. He'll be okay in a few weeks. Tray reply to CB on Mar 25 at 22:05 Reply +/- Other players did play well. Miami turned the ball over a lot, couldn't score early on. eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 21:59 Reply +/- Not cause of this game, but I just don't want to meet them in the playoffs. Just has to be Boston, they're our most even matchup. We can beat Miami though in series format, but Boston would be exhilirating. AJ reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 22:02 Reply +/- I agree I would rather see Boston or Chicago rather than Miami eddies' heady's reply to AJ on Mar 25 at 22:05 Reply +/- Yep I even meant my thoughts in the sense - I'd rather see CHI too but not b/c i think the results would be favorable, just I don't want to see MIA b/c of the iso factor and no paint protector. Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:00 Reply +/- Honestly, after so many 4th quarter meltdowns, that was the first time the Sixers were clearly outplayed. It didn't feel like they played bad, it was just the Heat played a hell of a quarter. Simply put they don't have the talent to play with them, right now. Brian on Mar 25 at 22:01 Reply +/- Lou is your player of the game. Actually think Collins' biggest mistake was taking him out early in the fourth. Rodney Buford on Mar 25 at 22:01 Reply +/- Break up the Bucks - AGAIN against the Knicks? Tray on Mar 25 at 22:03 Reply +/- Boston with a fourth-quarter collapse, loses to Charlotte. They're now up just half a game over Miami. Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:04 Reply +/- Celtics keep on struggling after the allstar break and personnel changes they made. Their lead has trimmed to a half a game now ahead of the Heat and i think the Heat have the easier schedule. don pacifiico on Mar 25 at 22:04 Reply +/- Anyone else get a bit sick when they that instead of Evan Turner, Andres Nocioni and Spencer Hawes.............. We could have Sammy D and Cousins/Favors/Monroe and be the 4th seed eddies' heady's reply to don pacifiico on Mar 25 at 22:08 Reply +/- i'd vote for Monroe. I loved him coming out, but considered when Brian said he would be sort of soft on D and boarding, but now I'm not sure. His passing and footwork always stood out to me back then. Tray reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 22:15 Reply +/- Your vote was for Wesley Johnson. eddies' heady's reply to Tray on Mar 25 at 22:21 Reply +/- you know don't you?.. not me, obviously....go look at the Monroe comtemplations in the run-up to it...just random thoughts thrown out there...sheesh.......... das411 on Mar 25 at 22:04 Reply +/- well I for one don't know who I am more looking forward to hearing from after this one, Collins or Brian... but does Igoudala now go on DWade's list? Brian on Mar 25 at 22:04 Reply +/- btw, look at Miami's schedule. They're going to win their next 7 games. I think if we want to avoid Miami, we can't finish any lower than 6th. They're catching Boston and maybe Chicago as well. Finishing 5th or 6th is imperative at this point. stoned81 reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 22:06 Reply +/- This is excellent. I'd rather play Boston. I think losing tonight might work out in our favor, we put Miami within .5 of Boston. Tray reply to stoned81 on Mar 25 at 22:10 Reply +/- It also could put them within 1.5 of Chicago, a team I don't think we really want to face. stoned81 reply to Tray on Mar 25 at 22:13 Reply +/- I'd actually much rather play Chicago than BOS or MIA. Charlie H reply to stoned81 on Mar 25 at 22:37 Reply +/- Yeah, the Bulls are not too experienced. It matters. Xsago reply to stoned81 on Mar 25 at 22:11 Reply +/- The Heat might end up with the first seed actually. All of their remaining 10 games are very winnable. eddies' heady's reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 22:16 Reply +/- Yep, 6th is going to get us the you-know-whos...can't wait. Tray on Mar 25 at 22:08 Reply +/- The all-but-selected MVP is 4-18 tonight against Memphis. You would think that they couldn't beat a 40-32 team with such a lousy performance from the guy who's supposedly the sole reason they're so good - but in fact, they're right in it. Xsago reply to Tray on Mar 25 at 22:14 Reply +/- Rose will probably the worst MVP ever. And it won't even be close. That will be such an unforgivable decision fueled by the media. AJ reply to Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:18 Reply +/- Rose has clearly benefited from the fact that LeBron went to Miami and that the Bulls lived up to expectations. No one is looking at Howard because the Magic are worse than in past years, eventhough the rest of the team sucks. MVP should be LeBron and Dwight in some order. Rose shouldn't be higher then #3. if anything, their MVP is their coach. Xsago reply to AJ on Mar 25 at 22:23 Reply +/- I don't think Lebron should get the award at all. It's a toss up between Nowitzki and Howard to me. But noone seems to be talking about them. If it's all about record, Dallas has almost the same record as Chicago and Nowitzki is far more important to Dallas than Rose is to Chicago. If it's all about stats, Howard is a no-brainer right now. eddies' heady's reply to Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:27 Reply +/- So how good is Chicago without Rose, if only for his offensive contributions? Really, how good? Xsago reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 22:31 Reply +/- Depends on what you replace him with. Lets presume CJ Watson starts instead of him. I'd say that costs the Bulls 3-4 games at the maximum. eddies' heady's reply to Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:42 Reply +/- 3-4? You've got to be kidding...no way, CJ Watson? 3 or 4? think about that now..... Rose...to ...watson.... eddies' heady's reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 22:44 Reply +/- that's not even taking into account the games Boozer was out, yet he played and lead (rhyming with head not bead) Tray reply to eddies' heady's on Mar 25 at 23:42 Reply +/- Yeah, it's got to be more than 3 or 4. But I don't think it's any more than 10-12. AJ reply to Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:31 Reply +/- I don't see how there's an argument that LeBron SHOULDN'T get it. He's the best player in one of the NBA's best team. And I know he hasn't made the clutch shots, but he performs in all the Heat's big games. I am not saying he should be the MVP though. My vote goes to Dwight. jaypiddler reply to Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:20 Reply +/- agreed. love to watch him play, but id vote howard or nowitzki over rose. Tray reply to Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:22 Reply +/- The Nash choices were dubious, although Nash's MVP seasons were much better than what Rose is doing. I mean, what is Rose doing, exactly, besides scoring a large but less than astounding number of points at a not very efficient rate? The fact that he's also an okay passer? What separates him from Kevin Martin (besides being way less efficient than Martin) or Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook, other than the fact that his team has a great defense and therefore wins a lot of games and their teams don't have great defense? Xsago reply to Tray on Mar 25 at 22:24 Reply +/- Nothing separates him from guys like Ellis and Westbrook IMO. Brian reply to Tray on Mar 25 at 22:18 Reply +/- And the probable runner-up MVP was tonight, as he is on a lot of nights, the second most valuable player on his own team. AJ reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 22:24 Reply +/- Nah, this is a team effort. LeBron was the best player in that game for the first 3 quarters. if not for his impact, Wade would not have the open lanes he got for all those lay-ups. I know it's easy to gang up on LeBron, but come on. He's the best player in the league, hands down, and the Heat's most important player. Tray reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 22:24 Reply +/- And Howard had a so-so 21, 14 and 3 blocks. Tray reply to Brian on Mar 25 at 22:32 Reply +/- Besides, so what? That's like saying Shaq was never the league's MVP in the Kobe-Shaq years because on many nights Kobe had a better game. Shaq was still producing an enormous amount of wins, and more wins than Kobe was producing. don pacifico on Mar 25 at 22:11 Reply +/- According to 82games.com Meeks spends almost all of his time guarding SGs. Opposing SGs are shooting 45.0% eFG and putting up a 10.4 PER against him. This whole notion of Meeks-Lou not being able to defend as a backcourt is atrocious. I really think doug collins needs to be sat down by math nerds and have some thinks pointed out to him, Xsago reply to don pacifico on Mar 25 at 22:19 Reply +/- Did you watch the game? Wade absolutely demolished him. Meeks has improved significantly on defense, but his lack of size, gives him trouble against the better bigger guards. stoned81 reply to don pacifico on Mar 25 at 22:30 Reply +/- Someone wasn't watching the game during the 17-2 run das411 on Mar 25 at 22:17 Reply +/- and yet as depressed as we all are, this team still gave a team with two of the ten best players in the league a hell of a run...with Spencer Hawes, half speed Iggy, Jodie Meeks, and Lou Will in there for big minutes... AJ on Mar 25 at 22:21 Reply +/- In the playoffs, I would rather face Chicago or Boston simply because Miami takes away our biggest advantage: Iguodala. I don't think he can do such a good job defending LeBron, plus he's always at a disadvantage is he's handling the ball and LeBron or Wade is guarding him. Meanwhile, vs CHI or BOS he can be a disruptive force on the defensive end PLUS he can handle the ball consistently as our main offensive option (either setting the table or scoring, whatever). Xsago reply to AJ on Mar 25 at 22:26 Reply +/- The real problem with Miami is that they are the only team in the league that have two guys of the type that need to be defended by Iguodala. The situation really comes down to a "pick your poison" type of situation and those rarely end up well. eddies' heady's reply to Xsago on Mar 25 at 22:29 Reply +/- +1 on the pick your poison thing with them playoffs become more difficult b/c of that don pacifico on Mar 25 at 22:25 Reply +/- Wade is the best point guard in the game and one of the best to ever play the game. Rarely, if ever does anyone get the best of Wade. He dominates on a nightly basis. Lou Williams is way more effective against Miami than Jrue. Okay Jrue pass it to meeks and iggy who are covered by wade and lebron..... lol Lebron and Wade are the best and 3rd best players in the NBA. the sixers played nice but Collins ICING lou williams was just lol, seriously keep running Holiday out 35+ minutes a game. whats the point of playing Holiday-Meeks in the backcourt when holiday can neither shoot the 3 or get to the rack? Xsago reply to don pacifico on Mar 25 at 22:29 Reply +/- Holiday can't shoot the three huh? And he can't get to the rack? Get your thoughts together man... eddies' heady's reply to don pacifico on Mar 25 at 22:33 Reply +/- It's not shooting the 3 or getting to the rack for me with him, it's the not setting others up and not getting himself to the line - whether with fakes, change of pace dribbles, or just straight ahead aggression. He does those two too infrequently. don pacifico on Mar 25 at 22:33 Reply +/- Let me rephrase that. Holiday plays 35 minutes a game and takes 2.7 3pt attempts a game and shoots a good percentage He averages 2.5 free throw attempts per game. So like I said, he doesn't stretch the floor or get to the rack Tom Moore reply to don pacifico on Mar 25 at 22:35 Reply +/- Holiday has attempted a total of six free throws in the last eight games.