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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 16:32
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had some sleet here, and huge wet snow flakes for awhile...kinda nice, one more cozy saturday(if you are able to chill out and do nothing, that is)

looking forward to watching paul george, then watching evan turner, then sighing heavily

wilkins to start again

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mymanjrue reply to sixerfan1220 on Mar 16 at 19:25
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tanktastic

game is on NBATV

Ugh. The offense is so fucking bad with Turner and Wilkins on the wings.

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mymanjrue reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 19:38
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makes you long for the offense of iguodala or even lou will

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:40
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i have to believe evan turner would be a better player if he were in better shape

Aaaand we're off. Hawes wins the tip.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:41
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turner pass too hot for hawes

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:41
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sissy j

Jrue to Hawes for the 17 footer. Good.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:42
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nice j for paul george

hawes to thad

Good ball movement for the second hoop, Thad ends up w/ the bunny.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:42
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NICE ball movement ends with thad scoring

Turner w/ a corner brick.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:43
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et brick from three

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:43
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bad shot by jrue

Jrue w/ a bad shot in transition. misses it badly. ugh.

Nice, Jrue.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:44
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NICE shot by jrue in transition

jrue layup

Arm bands for Jrue and Turner again.

Jrue follows his own. Nice find by Spence on the cut.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:46
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nice look from hawes to jrue down low, jrue puts back his own miss

et!

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:46
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why is wilkins shooting that

Thad with another monster board in traffic. One-handed. When did he start doing that?

ugh hawes

Spence w/ the turnaround brick, ugh.

On Wilkins: his Twitter tag brags about scoring 3000 pts by age 33, if I'm inferring correctly. His strong play has him at .058 WS/48 for the season. I give him credit for sweating as a Sixer. Doug likes him more than I. Which goes to show, an expressed desire to coach will get you somewhere, maybe.

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mymanjrue reply to Dollar Bill on Mar 16 at 19:49
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ha, good info

Spence to the line, following his own miss. Two on David West.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:48
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jrue AGAIN intransition!

nice move jrue

Come on, Spence. Grab the board.

JRUE43! Kick from Wilkins.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:52
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JRUE43

thad jumper

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 19:52
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ugh jrue should have captained that transition rather than et

Thad from Jrue. His jumper has been better.

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mymanjrue reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 19:55
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it really has, ive stopped cringing when he takes it and started expecting it to swish. dont wanna jinx it, this is a recent development

Wish it would translate to free throws.

Turner hits a J off the handoff.

Wright in for Wilkins, Moultrie for Thad.

Bleh. I hate Hansbrough.

That was 7 years of college dominance followed by NBA futility colliding there.

Hawes, you sis.

He's scrappy with a capital S.

He's something with a capital S.

Funny rejoinder.

I'll take him on my team over Spencer Flawes.

I'd rather have neither.

Zero sum game, I see.

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Tray reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 20:25
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Hansbrough gets to the line at a really high rate. Less than 2 shots for every free throw for his career. This year he takes 4.5 shots a game and 3.5 FTA, which is crazy. He's so lousy from the field, though, that it only gets him up to a .522 TS%.

Early burn for Lavoy.

PHI 23, IND 24

IND 6-0 to finish the quarter, I believe. Beginning of second is going to be important. Assume Jrue goes to the bench.

Ugh. No offense being run, Hansbrough on the o-glass on the other end.

13-0 run, now. Down 8.

wright 3!

Wright for 3. Big shot to end the streak.

Thad w/ butterfingers, would've been a dunk.

Sam Young sighting.

Offensive foul on psycho douche.

sissy hook

Pacers one of seven 40-win teams. Doesn't come by accident. Know how to scrum.

good passing leads to thad bucket

Yeah, Thad! Steal on one hand, abuses Hansbrough on the other for the layup. Good find by Spence.

Ah, Jenkins. Terrible.

3 on west

Thad draws West's third foul. Yeah, that's a foul.

Jrue to the cup w/ the left. Come on.

sissy block, wright 3!

Starters out there except Wright for Turner. Wright three. Sixers lead.

Look at Spence! Man's board, finishes on the other end in traffic. Wow.

JRUE43.

jrue 3!

That shot was in the air, no?

Yeah, count the hoop.

Jrue's hot. In the paint there, around Hibbert.

Jesus, Spence has an outside shot at a quad-double. 8 pts, 8 boards, 6 dimes, 4 blocks.

He's got a case of the Will Perdues. He's got it bad and that ain't good.

Indy takes the lead on some Hibbert nonsense.

Jrue gets it right back. 20 for him.

PHI 48, IND 49 at the half.

Poor ending again gives Indy the one-point lead at the end of the quarter.

Jrue and Spence are doing their part. Need someone else to step up a little bit.

Spence really doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from the zebras. Not that he deserves it, but still.

sissy 3

Sissy three for the tie.

Three freebies coming. Hibbert with the foul and Vogel w/ the T.

Wilkins to the line again! 6 FTA in the first 2:40 of this quarter. Good attack in transition there.

Ugh, missed #s 5&6.

Ugh. shitty turnover. Come on. Sustain a run.

hawes

Spence swoops across the lane for two more.

wilkins in semi transition

Turner all day to miss that corner three. Ugh.

Wilkins hustles down, gets good post position, Jrue hits him for the easy one.

Jrue w/ the running banker. 23 for him now. Sixers up 3.

Jrue's 1st turn, shuffled his feet, I guess.

Wright in for Turner. This lineup was really good in the second quarter, like to see them end this quarter strong.

splits them

Jesus, Hansbrough just falls down on every fucking play.

sissy hook!

Hawes w/ the up and under, sort of. Wow.

Good D. Couple possessions in a row.

7 dimes for Hawes, now.

Wright to the line. Any chance they don't wind up down 1 point heading into the fourth?

PHI 71, IND 72 after three.

Yep, down 1 after 1, after 2, and after 3. Can they get over the hump and stay there in the fourth?

Jrue didn't sit in the third. Believe he played the entire second half vs. Miami the other night, will Collins push him again or go to the bench here to start the fourth? Drama.

Have to keep attacking like that, Jrue. Didn't get the layup, but Allen got the follow tip.

Wright w/ a three in transition.

Jrue drive and kick to Lavoy. 10 dimes for Jrue, 4-point lead. Turnover IND. Get another hoop here.

Jrue to Wright, +6. Keep pushing it.

Turner in transition. +8, timeout Indy.

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Tray reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 21:26
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As a pro-tanker I'm very concerned that the team's bottomed out and is resuming its typical mediocre play.

Yeah, you probably should be. But it's not mediocre play, probably better than average.

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Tray reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 21:31
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Well, I not entirely sarcastically hope you and the remaining four other viewers of Sixers games enjoy this inspired stretch of probably better than average play.

I may as well get some enjoyment out of this season. Probably getting the #10 pick and a scrub in the draft. Of course, even if they'd gotten up to #6, they still would've probably gotten a scrub.

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Tray reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 21:37
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I thought we had a shot at 3. I'm a big irrational believer in draft talent though, so I'll still be excited about the 10th pick.

I'm glad you said irrational. Will you get psyched for Plumlee?

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Tray reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 21:47
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I never watched him. Looking at the players available at that point, I like Olynyk strictly for the funny hair, Poythress because he probably has way more talent than other available players at that point and underachieving freshmen who were highly touted recruits frequently pan out in the NBA . . . and Alex Len is an athletic guy who's 7'1 and could be good defensively.

The Wiz might've had a shot, but they've got a ton of road games left. Only 1 more home game than the Sixers have. Probably going to finish between #9 and #11.

Grab a fucking board, huh?

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:29
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so proud of et right now guys. he's not letting paul george do him

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Tray reply to mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:34
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Sort of like how Willie Green's mom must have felt about Willie's 5 good games as a Sixer, I guess.

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mymanjrue reply to Tray on Mar 16 at 21:36
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i do feel a certain type of way about evan

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Tray reply to mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:38
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We know.

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mymanjrue reply to Tray on Mar 16 at 21:39
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youre a funny motherfucker

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mymanjrue reply to Tray on Mar 16 at 21:50
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i just feel like evan and i could be friends, is all. i feel like no one understands him, dog.

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Tray reply to mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:54
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Oh. Well to me, Turner seems like this arrogant, insecure douchey guy with very few redeeming qualities. Kind of like Redick in his Duke years but a lot more insecure and passive-aggressive.

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mymanjrue reply to Tray on Mar 16 at 22:05
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dude i think he needs a friend

i am mostly kidding with the turner love lately, he does act like an asshole way too often, but i have a soft spot. really i want to be his shrink. tony dileo, my phone is on.

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Tray reply to mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 23:20
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I bet you'd make a great shrink. Just like GoSixers could help Cousins with his issues.

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mymanjrue reply to Tray on Mar 16 at 22:08
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if you look at his wikipedia, he had a pretty traumatic early life

Jrue going to the bench w/ the Sixers up 8. 6:52 left. He looked gassed there a minute ago.

sorry, up 10.

Thad is just harassing West. Three straight turns.

76ers look great!!

+14, and I believe that was Hawes' 8th assist on the Turner drive.

I believe that's ball game.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:33
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jrue has murdered his efficiency this half

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:35
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turner came out of nowhere to show up for the fourth on offense. three boards too i think. rare for him. usually once he dons the invisibility cloak on that end, it's on for the night

Jrue back. Short rest, the bench put 4 more on the lead. Spence just got two blocks on that possession. He's really going after this quad double.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:37
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nice, jrue

Down to 8.

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Tray reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 21:42
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My ideal of how this game ends is Hawes passing up an open layup that would have given us the win to kick it out for a Turner three and his would-be 10th assist, only to turn it over to a leaking Hibbert, who Hawes then attempts to chase down to atone for his mistake, but Hawes being Hawes he weakly fouls him and gives up the and-one at the buzzer.

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mymanjrue reply to Tray on Mar 16 at 21:44
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too true

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:40
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here comes paul george on my cue

Heh. Jrue padding his o-board numbers, then ices it.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:43
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theyre all playing for stats its kinda funny

No burn at all for Nick Young. Wonder if he tweaked the ankle.

Very unimaginative play to get the ball in, there. don't really like Turner on the trigger. Better get it right this time.

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mymanjrue on Mar 16 at 21:51
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damn evan

They're free, dickhead.

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Charlie H reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 21:55
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lol

Jrue laughing at David West. Cracks me up.

PHI 98, IND 91 Final.

Strong fourth Q. Doug Collins, "Fuck the tank."

Hawes gets POTG. 7/14, 1/1, 3/4, 16r, 8a, 7bk, 18pts.

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Rich reply to Brian on Mar 17 at 3:11
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Again, Hawes a POTG in a win.

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Charlie H on Mar 16 at 22:00
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Doug could never tank.

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mymanjrue reply to Charlie H on Mar 16 at 22:06
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nah it isn't in him

...or ultimately win. The statspitter can do the rough carpentry, can't finish. I'm tired of his mouth. And tired of the products of the local media that take his dictation.

@ESPNStatsInfo
Spencer Hawes- 1st player with at least 18 pts, 16 rebounds, 8 assists, 7 blocks in game since Hakeem Olajuwon's quadruple double in 1990

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mymanjrue reply to sixerfan1220 on Mar 16 at 22:09
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wow, it's kind of disgrcaeful

Hawesome. As the saying goes, he's taken it to the next level. Sign him up for THREE more yrs! Beast.

wow. Too bad the trade deadline already passed. Now I have to worry about this team deciding to rebuild around Hawes.

Just pray they get rid of Turner this summer before they have the chance to sign him for a couple years, just because, the following summer. That's my biggest fear right now.

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buke reply to Brian on Mar 16 at 22:46
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If he could play a role like he has the last two games consistently (9 to 15 shots, some playmaking, some rebounding, and fair attention to defense) he would be worth keeping as a glue guy and 4th scoring option. Too bad that probably isn't worth 6-8 million per year.

His biggest problem is he was drafted #2 after being college player of the year. That set fan expectations for him and his expectations for himself and it also set his salary scale. All of those things were inflated. If he would have been drafted #20 like former college player of the year Jameer Nelson, his initial years in the NBA might have worked out better for all involved.

Can't be a glue guy when you often come unglued.

His biggest problem is, simply, underperformance, a lack of winning integration with the pro game. Fan expectations are on the periphery, and an excuse. He needs a wake-up call of some form. And increased commitment and greater focus. Has talents, but so far he's a high profile, well-paid flake.

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buke reply to Dollar Bill on Mar 17 at 0:58
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I think he has become unglued to a degree because his attempts have exceeded his abilities partially because he plays on a team that needs him to contribute more than he can. He would have been better off drafted much lower, with a lesser reputation, and by a good team that didn't need him to play as many minutes, score as many points, and assume as many ball handling duties. His primary talent is that he can do a lot of things but he can't deliver a whole lot of any one thing consistently. His talents actually are very suitable for a glue type of guy, but he hasn't been adjusted to that role maybe in part because no team feels too good about a glue guy with a rookie scale contract of his size.

I don't buy that argument. He wasn't thrust into a role right away where he needed to score a ton or take a ton of shots, or even initiate much offense. This is the first year where they relied on him for any of that. The fact is, he's been a failure in every role, no matter what his level of responsibility is/was. He's just not a very good player, and the salary doesn't have much to do with it. You point to the last two games, well, he's basically put up Marvin Williams numbers in those two games, and that's a bright spot.

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Tray reply to Brian on Mar 17 at 2:05
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I agree, of course. Turner's ineffective no matter how little or much he's used because he's not a glue guy. A glue guy hits open jump shots, makes smart cuts, maybe gets putbacks, defends well. They fill gaps in the offense. If you overextend them, they become inefficient, but used correctly they're very effective players. Turner has no aptitude for gap-filling; he needs the ball to do anything, but he's not good enough to justify giving him the ball.

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Charlie H reply to Brian on Mar 17 at 12:02
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Exactly. He was handled pretty much the way the Celtics handled Sullinger or any player picked in the 20s. (Remember Collins talking about Jodie being ready to take the starting job?) Agree that he's not a glue guy, his game is predicated on being a star with clear physical advantages other than just size - what Dollar Bill said. And he's apparently a head case, so it all depends on what the "who's on first" organization decides is his value and how it assesses his, uh, mental make-up.

In another neat stat of the night, Duncan had 30, 12, 4 and 5 blocks tonight, oldest player ever to do it. The previous record-holder was also Duncan, 3 months ago. And two nights ago Duncan had 28 and 19.

He's a marvel.

Shows that the Sixers go from terrible to potentially a top 4 seed in the East if they get quality play from the center position.

Their is such a huge drop off in the East after Miami this year. I wonder where the Sixers could have finished if Bynum gave them what he gave LA last year. He might have been a 20-25 more win player- mostly because seeds 2-8 in the East are mediocre.

It shows the Sixers go from terrible to playing loose and better once the pressure of playoff contention has been shed through a dreadful, steady-drip season of poor play, generally speaking.

Pacers traveled after spending themselves losing to Lakers. Sixers were resting in wait. That's the NBA. Get 'em where ya can.

Agree, outside of Miami, the rest of East hasn't wowed. Sixers are now 15-25 against Eastern Conference teams. One must always temper Bynum-based speculations by juxtaposing them against reality, his and the 'who's on first?' organization's.

Howard Eskin, October clarion call: "damaged goods."

Collins said a while ago, that they expected to be a 60% (50win) team with Bynum. I guess he would've been right. Indiana and New York are both at 60% right now.

key words: "Collins said" & "I guess"

Collins - 52% regular season, 42% playoffs - has won as many championships as the locally reviled and eviscerated Eddie Jordan. Where's the matching outcry from the (remaining) fans and media for this year's pile? For some reason the "architect" goes unassailed.

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Charlie H reply to Dollar Bill on Mar 17 at 12:50
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It just comes down to whether you think he's a solid coach or not. Yeah, he's vulnerable to all those criticisms. But you have to have a roster. (What did Bill Fitch do pre-'80? Doc Rivers with Orlando?) Faulting his architecture? Eh. The Hawes signing is looking pretty decent, Wright came cheap, Nick Young is only signed for 1 year, the Vucevic pick looks very good too, and he didn't build the team around Bynum. That was a fluke. Who knew that Orlando didn't want him? Has DC handled this season well? That's certainly open to debate, but who would? I for one am glad to have him. I realize nobody cares about the past, but history matters. You can't toss him aside because of a roster disaster, one that is shaping up to be a replay of the Jeff Ruland tragedy (that time we gave up a Hall of Fame center as you well know).

Pointing out the weakness of the local press is perfectly fine, but that behavior extends to the entire media across all outlets, networks, twitterverses.

I have serious doubts about what a coach should do when he senses that his team has no heart. You can't just "not throw them under the bus." Bad is bad, good is good. How long can you be the eternal optimist? You have to be positive, yet you have to call out failure. And take shit for it. Doug is miles and miles better than Eddie Jordan. I don't think he's shown that the job is too much for him, that he can't coach this team deep into the playoffs. This is just a lost season.

Doug is the aging, beloved straitlaced vaudevillian who's been given too much stagetime and latitude by the show producers.

Solid coach? Lots of them around, more than you can shake a stick at. In some ways he's solid, other ways liquid (an emotional spill waiting to happen). Great schmoozer.

You talk about history mattering. I agree, and see Collins as a cloying mooch on a strong tradition that others built, and I've watched from the start of the franchise. Dolph to Hal to Wilt to Chet to Billy to Gene to George to Doc to Moses to Barkley to AI (and supporting cast members, including Collins, a sheer gunner and self-promoter).

Yes, press bouquets tend to be nationally-tossed too. But the locals with regular access just smooch him ad infinitum, ad nauseum. They're not only weak, they're complicit in annexing "the loosely-built legend." I miss Kate Fagan, the only one who would take him on.

Jordan, Collins common coaching stops:

Jordan
Wash 197-224 (4 playoffs in 5 yrs)
Philly 27-55

Collins
Wash 74-90
Philly 101-112 (2 playoffs in 3 yrs)

Yeah, there's a difference in personality and approach, but the bottom line is not as divergent as popular opinion suggests.

Enjoyed reading your thoughtful post.

Cazzie Russell, Michigan & NY Knick sharpshooter, will be speaking momentarily from Sonny Hill's "Living Room" on WIP 94 FM radio.

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mymanjrue reply to Dollar Bill on Mar 17 at 17:12
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sorry i missed that

Hornets @ T-Wolves tonight. Somebody has to win.

Former Sixers Vucevic and Harkless combined for an efficient 43 and 24 today. Harkless, 23 and 9, 2 steals, 2 blocks. Vucevic, 20, 15, 4 assists, 2 steals

hahaha who got pickpocketed twice by Vuce?

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Tray reply to das411 on Mar 18 at 0:37
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Ellis and Jennings. In a 12 second stretch. Vucevic turned the ball over after the first steal and stole it back.

I have a feeling that the Celtics are going to break Miami's win streak. They did break Houston's 22 game win streak and oddly enough they're going to face Miami who is also coming off a 22 game win streak. .

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Tray reply to Stan on Mar 18 at 11:55
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Coincidence isn't really a great predictor, but I will say that Boston's 24-9 at home and Miami's just 21-11 on the road; Miami's been a much better road team of late, obviously, but Boston, remarkably, hasn't lost a home game since Rondo's injury. If I were an oddsmaker, I'd favor Miami; they outscore their opponents by 7.6 and Boston outscores them by just 0.5, and home court's only worth 3 points.

Garnett wasn't at shoot around, apparently.

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Tray reply to Brian on Mar 18 at 13:08
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Then the streak will likely reach 30. After 30, they play the Spurs at San Antonio.

The game to tie the record (33, right?) is vs. Philly. Second night of a back-to-back for both teams (Collins should rest everyone the night before in Atlanta).


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