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This sounds good in theory, but I don't know if this plan is going to work out. What if the Yanks can't find an eighth inning replacement when Joba heads to the minors?

If they can't find a viable internal replacement, they have two months to work out a trade for Huston Street or Joe Nathan, or any of the other closers/setup guys on the market.

Again, it sounds good in theory, but I don't know if this type of yo-yo plot will pan out. Do you know of any other young pitcher that came up this way?

Can't say that I do. Limiting innings strictly for young pitchers is a relatively new phenomenon.

Fair enough, but I meant a pitcher starting in the pen and then heading back down to the farm to build up arm strength and then coming back up as a starter.

That seems like a good way to get a young guy injured instead of letting him pitch a bunch of innings.

Actually, I just found an example of a guy starting in the pen, then moving to the rotation to limit his innings, Johan Santana in 2002 and 2003.

I don't think he got sent down in the middle of the year to get ready to start, though.

I dunno, it just seems like a strange idea to map out for a guy.

the astros used to do this with almost all of their young pitchers when they were first promoted.

This is interesting. Do you know what kind of results they've had w/ this approach? Oswalt hasn't had any major injuries. The last guy I can remember who did from their rotation was Scott Elarton, who was supposed to be a big-time prospect but never panned out. Maybe Wade Miller.

Huh! I did not know that.

I'm trying to remember the names of the guys they did it with....I know Oswalt did briefly, Carlos Hernandez, Pete Munro.....they used to have a pretty decent rotation so they'd have the young guys come up and pitch in the bullpen before throwing them to the wolves. Those guys were throwing multiple/middle innings though.

In 2002 Santana did not start in the pen, He mixed starting and relieving through out the year mostly starting. 2003 he did start in the pen and had spot starts up until July 2003. He moved to the rotation in July of that year. I do not think this was done by design to save innings.

Correction to my comment: Johan mixed starting and relieving through out the year in 2002 mostly starting IN THE BEGINNING.

I'm not sure what the design was, I just looked for an example of a young pitcher working out of the rotation and the pen in his first couple of years, and the incremental jump in innings.

got any melky news?


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