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What To Do With Brett Gardner?

Brett GardnerAfter spending a week in Tampa watching Yankees Spring Training games the headline above is the biggest question I came home with. I thought Gardner was a year away, at least. I had an idea of his speed, but hadn't seen it. I thought a full year at AAA would be the best thing for him, and for the team. Now, I'm not so sure.

Gardner has been lighting up the Grapefruit League, through 15 games he's hitting .393 with an OBP of .469 while slugging an impressive .536. He looks ready. In the game I saw him play against the Reds in Sarasota Gardner singled twice in his first two at bats and immediately swiped second. He's got 6 stolen bases so far and has yet to be caught.

Patience at the plate, speed to burn and the instincts to translate that speed onto the base paths. He's ready. But where does he fit in?

A few weeks back I wrote an entry calling for the Yanks to sign Corey Patterson to fill the Homer Bush role off the bench. I thought then, and still do, that the Yanks need to have a guy with great speed on their bench who can come in late, steal a bag, score from first on a double, etc. Patterson was one option, but as reader Alex K. from NY pointed out to me in an e-mail, Gardner could do the same thing.

There are a couple schools of thought, and really four options with Gardner. The first idea, and this is probably how I would lean if I was taking a long view of the Yankees future, is to send Gardner to AAA and let him get a full season's worth of regular at bats. He looks ready now, but he's young and regular playing time would probably be the best thing for his development.

Another notion is to make the best use of Gardner to make the Yankees a better team this season. Meaning, keep him on the roster, use him as your fourth outfielder (start him when Melky is serving his suspension), and whenever Posada or Giambi gets on base late in a game, run Gardner out there to swipe a bag. Part of me likes this idea. I don't know where Gardner fits in team's long term plans. Their top two prospects in the minors, by most accounts, are Jose Tabata and Austin Jackson, both guys play the outfield, both are more highly regarded, long term, than Gardner.

Now, the options. The Yanks could carry anywhere from 10 to 12 pitchers, if I had to guess at this point, I'd put it at 11. That leaves 14 spots for position players. 12 of those spots are locked down already by Damon, Jeter, A-Rod, Giambi, Posada, Abreu, Matsui, Melky, Cano, Betemit, Duncan and Molina. Fighting it out for the final sport or two are Morgan Ensberg, Jason Lane, Gardner and possibly another utility guy, either Cody Ransom or Alberto Gonzalez, although I think it's probably safe to rule the last two guys out.

Lane would give the Yanks some insurance at first and another outfielder. Ensberg can handle first or third. Both of them hit righty (although neither does so very well). Ensberg is having a decent Spring (.313/.371/.469) but has yet to hit a HR. Lane has 2 bombs, but the rest of his numbers are bad (.250/.308/.528). Both of these guys were reclamation projects, low risk/high reward guys who have had some success in the past. Honestly, I don't think either is going to do more than Josh Phelps did for the Yanks last year. They're filler, and they don't really fill a need. It would be a crime if Ensberg or Lane took even 1 at bat away from Shelley Duncan. From a roster perspective, keeping Gardner makes sense.

Another option would be to make a trade. I wrote about the unprecedented reliance the Yanks will have on rookie or inexperienced (Hughes isn't technically a rookie) pitchers this year. If they could land a guy who could eat some innings in the rotation, that would be a welcome addition. So would a stable bullpen arm. The problem is, Hideki Matsui would probably be the best trade candidate and I don't really see any teams matching up. It would have to be a team that believes it can win now, has money to burn, and has a surplus of either starters or bullpen arms. If they could move Matsui in this type of deal, then I'd say put Gardner out there in center or left, with Melky patrolling the other spot right from opening day. I hold no illusions that this will happen at this point. Matsui isn't going anywhere, there's nowhere for him to go.

There is a fourth, and final option. One that I hesitate to mention. Melky could be your fourth outfielder, and Gardner could start in center. This would be a pretty bold move by Girardi and Co. and I really don't see it happening. However, the appeal of having a guy like Gardner batting ninth is high. The lineup would flip over and Johnny Damon, who is a very good run producer in the leadoff spot, would have a chance to knock Gardner in.

All told, I think Gardner is going to wind up in AAA, but if it were up to me, he'd be the fourth outfielder and he'd probably start in center during Melky's suspension to start the season. Who knows, he may never give the position up.



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To me, it would seem like there is no point to keep to send him down to AAA if Tabata and Jackson are more highly regarded. It's not like the Yanks are really shielding Gardner from anything, so why not just throw him in there and see what he can do. Right?

Some think the future outfield might be Gardner in center, Jackson in left and Tabata in right. Personally, I think the odds of all 3 panning out are pretty slim. I'd like to see the kid up here now.

brian, what are your thoughts on trading one/some of the 4 OF's?

You figure with Melky, Brett, and tabata and austin comin up, in the future the yanks will have two of them TOPS, if that.

that means you definitely want to trade the other two, but who and when will their value be at the highest point?

Tough decisions lol

I'm probably in the minority on this, but I wouldn't move Melky, at this point he's the only known quantity. A-Jax probably has the most upside. At this point, if I had to trade one of them it would be Tabata. Hopefully it doesn't get to the point where they absolutely have to trade for a piece. I'd like to see all 4 develop in pinstripes, then have the yanks make an informed decision. That way we don't give up on a potential all star and wind up with a marlon Byrd.

Brett Gardner is the kind of player that will offer an extra zap of juice late in the game. There is no doubt about his speed on the basepath. As a pinch runner for Giambi or whomever late in the game is a viable idea. But then I saw him track down a ball to deep right-center and save the game by making an incredible catch. This led me to beleive he can not only replace Melky, but might be an even better man to put out there. I'm biased because he is a dear friend of mine, but as one I also know he is clutch. Always has been and always will be. He's just one of those guys.

There's no harm in having Gardner play at AAA for most the season. Chances are Johnny Damon is going to wind up on the DL at some point or another and Gardner has played an excellent left this spring.

If a late inning speed guy is what you want on the bench then I say why not keep Bernie Castro on the team. He sures up the middle infield defense more than Betemit and he's a burner on the base paths. He's also a non-prospect and would just be appreciative of his role on a big league club.

I agree that Ensberg is a waste of a spot and believe the Yankees may be trying to trade him for a something. I know the Dodgers are in need of 3rd baseman and the Rays would like a stop gap for Longoria.

Let's not get too far ahead ourselves. I mean it is only spring training. Gardner has looked good but I'd like to see him do it in AAA before we make any serious moves regarding him. Let's remember that last year his play in AAA was just average. The best option is to put him in AAA for the time being and give him an opportunity to show us what he can do on an everday basis there. If he plays really well there he may put some pressure on Melky at which point you can bring him up and get him some work in the majors. Keeping him in AAA playing everyday also will get him prepared if someone gets injured and he is needed in an everyday role in the majors.

I'm not sure I see the harm in having him start the season on the roster. He'll get a couple of starts at least in the first week, see if he stays hot. If he looks over-matched, send him back down. If he looks like he belongs, find a role for him.

If we're talking long term, he's behind A-Jax and Tabata on the organizational depth chart anyway.

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One big problem is that to keep Gardner he has to be added to the 40 man roster, which also means someone has to be deleted. The 2 obvious moves (60 DL for Pavano and Brackman) have already been used. Sanchez could be put there, but hopefully he'll be ready by June, meaning someone else will have to be dropped (or injured enough to go on the 60). Henn remains a strong possibility for a roster spot. But I think the Yanks would like to keep a spot open for another IF reserve too. All the same issues apply for Castro, for even less payback.

Seems foolish to have Gardner sitting around at the cost of a roster spot. Adding him in Sept. when it should be clearer who's not in the long term plan (sooner if needed and an injury or something frees a spot) and his speed could help win a key game. Then you can decide if he's useful in the playoffs like Ellsbury was for the Sox. He'll have to be added in the poffseason to be kept anyway.

Cashman has always tried to maintain his options when roster spots are involved - never acting earlier than necessary.

Good point. Henn and Britton would be at the top of my list. If Cervelli is going to be out for more than 60 days they could put him on the DL and free up a spot that way.


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