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Starters Dominate (Bench, Not So Much)

sick defense by Troy Murphy. (Photo by David Dow/NBAE via Getty Images)
The Sixers played an inferior team at the Wach tonight under tough circumstances. They lost Elton Brand for the season earlier in the day, they were coming off a buzzer-beater loss to the Celtics and an epic offensive collapse to the Nets. To say they needed a win would be a gross understatement. Their starters showed up ready to dominate. Their bench did not. Ultimately, Tony DiLeo put the guys who really wanted it on the court when it mattered most and they brought it home.




I think we have to start with the bench, because that's exactly where I'd start if I was the coach. Lou Williams, Reggie Evans, Royal Ivey and Marreese Speights played a total of 56 minutes of basketball. They combined for a +/- of -75. They shot 3/13 from the floor, grabbed only 9 rebounds, didn't have a single assist, steal or block. They did, however, manage to commit 3 turnovers and 6 personal fouls.

When the first sub was made with 1:31 left to play in the first quarter, the Sixers held a 27-19 lead. When the starting lineup finally returned to the floor with 4:56 to go in the second quarter, the score was 45-37, Indiana. The starting lineup, give or take, would play the next 15 minutes. When the bench came back in, the Sixers held a comfortable 77-66 lead. Coach DiLeo then mixed and matched with his bench for 8 minutes. When the starters came back to finish the game with 6:00 to go in the fourth quarter, the Pacers had closed to within 2 points at 87-85. From there, the starters would out-score the Pacers 12-9 to finish off the game.

This game better be a blip on the radar. If you remember, the bench was woeful in the beginning of the season as well. The starters would jump out to an early lead, the bench would give it up, and more, then the starters would spend the rest of the game continually bailing out the bench. This kills a team in a number of ways. First, it means both Andres have to play 40+ minutes to secure a win. Second, it can create derision in a locker room. Third, it clearly is not sustainable.

One more note for the bad column, then we'll get to the positives. Thad Yound, what is going on with your shot? Over the past 4 games, Thad has shot 31% from the floor. That, in and of itself, is not shocking. Everyone goes through cold stretches. What is shocking, however, is that Thad has taken 16 shots per game over the stretch. On the season, he averages 11.7. I'd expect a guy like Thad to take less shots when he's going through a dry spell, rather than jacking up almost 50% more than usual.

I will say this for Thad, though. He was much more active on defense and on the glass tonight. He finished with 7 boards (3 offensive), 5 steals and a block. He also took it personally when a couple of defensive lapses led to threes by Troy Murphy. On the next trip down the floor he shook loose and buried a three in Murphy's face. A couple minutes later, he buried another one at the buzzer. Killer instinct. Good. Shot-happy when you're ice cold. Bad.

Willie led the team in scoring and hit some big shots down the stretch, so I'll give him a little ink. OK, that was enough.

Now, onto the stars of the game. Sammy was a man among boys on the inside tonight. 18 points, 20 boards and a block in 33 minutes. 9 of those rebounds came in the third quarter when the Sixers put a double-digit lead back on the Pacers. More importantly, Dalembert dominated the defensive glass and stopped the Pacers from getting offensive rebounds and second chances. The Pacers had 7 offensive rebounds in the first half, only 4 after the break. Sammy's minutes are going to be back up in the second half. The Sixers need this level of effort from him on a nightly basis.

Finally, let's talk about Andre Iguodala. There's something I want to share with you that you would never be able to tell by looking at the box score alone. Andre Iguodala's shot was off tonight. It was way off. By my count, he only took two jumpers all night, both missed badly. But guess what? Even though his jumper wasn't falling, he still scored 20 points on only 13 shots, and he shot 8/13 from the floor. You see, Iguodala realized very early that he didn't have his jumper, so he didn't force it. Instead, he forced the action, got himself to the line and relied on his other skills to lead this team to victory.

20 points, 11 assists, 8 rebounds and 4 steals. Quite a night for a guy who didn't have his jumper working. The most-impressive thing Iguodala did, however, came in the waning minutes of yet another close game. Iguodala sat down with 8 minutes to go in the fourth quarter and the Sixers leading by 10 points. His rest would only last two minutes and he'd return to a 2-point game. On his first play, he drove the lane and found Sammy for a sick alley-oop. Three minutes later, with the Sixers up by 4, he out-jumped three Pacers for an offensive rebound. 20 seconds later, he'd find Dalembert again for a layup. The next time down the floor he drove the lane, kicked to Willie for a wide-open three when the defense collapsed on him. Willie bricked the three, but again, Iguodala went up among several Pacers and ripped down the offensive board. He was quickly fouled, drained both from the line and iced the game.

He only scored 4 points on 2 shots in the fourth, but he had 3 offensive rebounds, 3 assists and a steal. It's a mistake to say that Andre Iguodala isn't a superstar because he only scores 20 points a game. Scoring is only the beginning with him. It's everything else that he does that makes him such a special player. Tonight was a perfect example of that.

Player of The Game: Iguodala (with Sammy nipping on his heels)
Team Record: 24-24 (.500 again)
Up Next: Miami on Saturday

By the way, here are the results of the premiere match-up of the game (and they spent over 30 minutes guarding each other):

All Star Danny Granger: 18 points on 6/15 shooting, 2 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks, 3 turnovers.
Non-All Star Andre Iguodala: 20 points on 8/13 shooting, 8 rebounds, 11 assists, 4 steals, 4 turnovers.

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Hi Brian,

Great win for the team tonight.

Looking at your final two lines, the problem is for Iggy is that most people look at scoring to the exclusion of all other statistics. Or of not to the exclusion of then they just weight scoring a lot more than they should (and don't factor defense, assists, boards, etc. fairly). So Granger, who scores a ton but doesn't do anything else, goes to the All-Star game. Iggy, who scores a little less but does a lot more, doesn't. That is why the guys at Wages of Wins (or even Hollinger) try to come up with the metrics to judge player's complete value.

I think PER favors gunners too much, but otherwise, completely agree. Granger's a good player, I just think Iguodala's more of the complete package.

Alright, so is it time to start taking the Willie hate and aiming it towards Lou?

Eh. I don't think the Willie hate really goes away, not after one good game. Right now, it's aimed at both of them from me.

Whether or not he's lost a step, or is showing his age, is a real concern, but I don't think there's any way we can tell at this point. Two freak, devastating injuries. Two years on the shelf. Now we're going to have to wait and see what he looks like next year. Disappointing.

Hating Willie Green is a waste of time. Willie is a bench player who is decent for 15 minutes a game receiving a starting nod. Your expectations of him are too high. Blame the coach for starting him, not Willie. Nothing about Willie has changed the past four years. No huge improvement and not really a noticable decline. Just a steady unspectacular from him.

Truth be told, if the roster had a few decent shooters Willie probably wouldn't be a Sixer. But, it is what it is and Willie is here to stay for a while longer.

Two things I disagree with about this statement.

1. "Your expectations of him are too high." I have no expectations of Willie, other than shitty basketball with the occasional hot shooting night.

2. "Decent for 15 minutes a game" He's decent for 15 minutes about 1 in 10 games.

Otherwise, spot on.

Willie Green is a mediocre basketball player who never should have been signed to a multi-year deal - period...he brings no 'special' hard to find skill (ala Korver and his 3 point shooting) and for some reasons the sixers brass loves him.

I'm not sure I buy this. He starts because they don't want to start Lou and they don't have a better option. I don't think anyone outside of BK and several opposing announcers are in love w/ the guy.

And our radio play by play guy, who's in love with everyone on the team. Listen to a game sometime on 610 if you can get it online, this guy is nuts. I'm not sure if he's the one we had in years past, but if he's the same guy something happened to him, something mentally.

Yeah? He openly supports Willie, huh?

I think people took my comment in the wrong manner. It has absolutely nothing to do with Willie's play, but everything to do with Lou's.

Lou, right now, is playing worse basketball than Willie most likely and that is a major problem in my book.

Lou has been so inconsistent this season. Lately, he's been miserable. I don't know what the options are, though. I mean, either you over-expose Ivey or you play Willie even more minutes. Lou needs to get his head screwed on straight.

Would you be interested in Barbosa?

I'd rather not touch that Barbosa contract personally.

I don't have any solutions really only complaints when it comes to Lou. Sorry.

Seeing numbers like this just make me a little sick thats all. When they are on the court, Lou and Green shoot more than either Andre.

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